The Dead Zone SE on R2 in NTSC?

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  1. Jon Robertson

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    For all those R2-capable folks out there, there is a Special Edition of David Cronenberg's The Dead Zone now available in the UK, but there's something weird about Amazon.co.uk's listings for the film.
    Apart from an anamorphic transfer, 5.1 sound and English, French and Spanish subtitles, it has:
    Audio Commentary from Stephen Jones (author of Creepshows: The Illustrated Guide To Stephen King on Film) and Kim Newman (film critic and author of The BFI Companion To Horror)
    20 Page Booklet with extensive liner notes by Stephen Jones
    International Poster Gallery
    Deleted Scenes from Jeffrey Boam's Screenplay
    Animated Menus
    Original Theatrical Trailer
    Now, here's the thing - Amazon.co.uk have it listed as "NTSC, Multi-Region" (here's the link)
    I should have this disc by Monday or Tuesday, but I don't know any definite ways of checking whether it is NTSC or not, and why such a disc would be released raises questions.
    If this does pan out to be true, then it could open the doors for many American fans of the film. Just thought this might be interesting to a number of you.
     
  2. Hendrik

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    ...erm... the info on the link you provided must have been corrected: it now states: Region 2 and PAL (as does the Black Star site: http://www.blackstar.co.uk/video/item/7000000068281 )
    ...incidentally: widescreen? - yes! ... anamorphic? - ? ? ? ...
    . . . [​IMG] . . .
     
  3. Jon Robertson

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    I was referring to the "Special Features" listing further down the page.
     
  4. Richard Smith

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    Has anyone got a copy of this yet? I was looking at it in my local megastore today and it doesn't mention if its anamorphic, it just says 1.85:1 letterbox. If this is 16x9 it's a must buy but if not I'll forgo the extras and get the R1 Paramount disc.

    Thanks for any replies,

    Richard
     
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    I have this. It is region free as are other Santuary label releases. It is 1:85 anamorphic although for some reason my Toshiba DVD player does not automatically switch it to anamorphic - I have to manually switch my widescreen TV to wide to view it correctly which is a bit annoying. I've never known any other disc where I've had to do this.
     
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    Thanks Douglas! I'll have to call into town and get this tomorrow.

    Cheers,

    Richard
     
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    Let me get this straight...
    Even though it says at the top of the page:
    Edition Details:
    • Region 2 encoding (Europe, Middle East & Japan only)
    • PAL, Widescreen, Special Edition
    It is in fact the listing below...
    Anamorphic 1.85:1 Widescreen Aspect Ratio
    NTSC, Multi Region
    ...that is true? This disc is really NTSC Region-free? And Anamorphic OAR?
    Sorry to be redundent, but I really want to believe this...
     
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    Robert, it is definately Region free. It is also anamorphic 1:85 but as I said in my prvious posting, for some reason it does not automatically unsqueeze. You have to adjust your TV manually. So on a PC it only plays squeezed! The package doesn't say that it is PAL as do all other UK releases but neither does it actually indicate whether it is NTSC. I don't know how to tell whether it is PAL or NTSC unless someone can tell me how you check this.
     
  9. Richard Smith

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    Robert,

    I'm 99% certain that this is NTSC. I switched the input on my Toshiba to PAL only and the picture came through black and white(which is usually what happens when you try watching NTSC on a PAL set) and I also tried it on my older tv, which can't play NTSC, and got the same results. Also the running time(103 minutes) is the same as the American running time at IMDB. This should have been a few minutes shorter due to PAL speed up.

    Hope this helps,

    Richard
     
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  11. Richard Smith

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    Robert,
    I don't know why I didn't think to check before but I just put the DVD in my rom drive and Power DVD says that the signal is NTSC. So that 99% has become a 100%.[​IMG]
    As for the cost it comes to about 31 dollars from Amazon.co.uk or 28 dollars from Blackstar. Here's a link to an online currency converter if you want to check it out.
    Richard
     
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    Good news and bad news about the disc (luckily far more of the former than the latter) -
    The good news: The 24-page booklet is incredibly cool, with two superb essays (on the film and Cronenberg respectively), several international posters, cast biographies and the original deleted opening of the film in the form of script pages. The commentary track (with two British authorities on Stephen King and horror films), transfer and 5.1 mix are also absolutely superb.
    The bad news: It appears to be permanently stretched anamorphically - ie. you can't squash it down for a 4:3 television.
    If anyone here from the US wishes to purchase it, I recommend Benson's World (direct link), as it has free shipping to anywhere in the world, so it'll be under $25.
     
  13. Mark Zimmer

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    Interesting; I have a review copy of The Bounty SE, which was released the same day by Sanctuary Visual Entertainment also, and it's clearly marked on the package as PAL, region-free. I'll have to check to see if it really is.
     
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    Correction to the preceding post:

    The Sanctuary The Bounty SE is indeed region free, and is indeed NTSC. I played it on my region 1 unmodded Sony and it worked fine (well, it has a defect that causes it to freeze in chapter 12 and 20:40, but other than that, it's fine). It looks to be the same transfer as the MGM barebones disc--which is to say, mediocre, with a fair amount of artifacts, but good color and black levels. My review should be up on Digitally Obsessed any day now. It took most of the weekend to make it through this beast and review it; tons of stuff on a single disc.

    I didn't try it out on a 4:3 television, though. I'll run it on another set tonight and see whether it plays properly.
     
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    How is the transfer compared to the R1 version?
     
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    I saw the SE of Bounty when I was checking into The Dead Zone.
    I have an Apex, so I can convert PAL to NTSC, but I am happy
    to stay in my native NTSC. That way I can lend out the disc
    to my friends who only have region 1 machines.
    While check on The Bounty & Dead Zone, I also came across
    a special edition by Sanctuary of "Charade" and "Suddenly".
    Since I have the Criterion R1 edition of Charade, I had to
    get the Sanctuary Edition and compare. The notes for the
    Sanctuary Edition mentions a commentary by film historian
    Ken Barnes (?) and audio conversations by Henry Mancini!
    and Jonny Mercer! How can you not get that!!
    I was not familiar with "Suddenly", so I took a pass.
    I am now waiting for a package from
    www.bensonsworld.co.uk that has Bounty,Dead Zone, & Charade.
    The booklet in The Dead Zone sounds like the booklets that
    come with the Director's Series in the UK R2 by Momentum.
    Momentum has some great booklets for;
    Angel Heart (64 pages)
    Sid & Nancy (56 pages)
    Elephant Man (50+ pages)
    The Graduate (?? pages)
     
  17. Mark Zimmer

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    My review is now live at http://www.digitallyobsessed.com/sho...w.php3?ID=3203
    Though the disc played without freezing on my Toshiba, it also was permanently squeezed on a 4:3 set, even though it's programmed to 4:3, so this one is only for those with widescreen sets or whose tastes run to Mannerism. [​IMG]
     
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    I placed an order with Benson's World and had it confirmed; I then got an e-mail from "Ruth" saying I needed to be aware that the title was Region 2/PAL only and that they didn't want to send me something that I couldn't use.

    This may well be a standardized e-mail that they send out or all titles shipped to the USA. I trust what everyone here is saying, that this is multi-region and NTSC. Just wanted to le anyone that might be ordering from Bensons know that the e-mail is coming and they ask for confirmation before they will ship.
     
  19. Enrique B Chamorro

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    Just got my shipment from Benson for;

    Bounty (yes Region 0 NTSC)

    Dead Zone (yes Region 0 NTSC)

    Charade (Region 2 PAL)

    A quick listen and all the commentary tracks are very good.

    Charade extras are a nice supplement to the OOP Criterion

    R1 NTSC DVD.
     
  20. Steve_Knutzen

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    Could someone remind me what the features are on the OOP Criterion disc?
     

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