The COVID Vaccination Thread (1 Viewer)

[John Dirk]

I really need to find some way to convince this person in particular. I'm at a loss how to do that. How do you convey to someone who is positively convinced they are taking the high moral ground that in fact they are doing the opposite?

If they know the facts and choose to interpret them differently, you won't change their mind so my advice would be to move on to others who might be more receptive. In the end we're looking for numbers, not individuals.

 

[John Dirk]

I suspect that John had it right when he said a "general penchant for non-conformance". The vaccine, like masks, has become a political statement. The "reasoning" for it is irrelevant. I can't help but think of Sterling Hayden in Dr. Strangelove going on about the corruption of our precious bodily fluids.

Great movie. Great analogy!!!

 

[jayembee]

My father-in-law (86) got his second Pfizer shot on Tuesday morning. He reported nothing other than the expected soreness in the arm, and that only lasted a couple of hours.

 

[Carlo_M]

Lost in all of this (re: how masks are being equated as a political statement) is the fact that we essentially didn't have a flu season due to people staying home and being masked when going outside.

This should be an object lesson for society to allow people to stay home from work when they're ill, rather than the common "we tough it out when we're sick" mentality. And if you absolutely have to go in to work while sick, wear a mask. But really, workplaces should give people PTO because it ends up costing the economy more to have a sickened workforce than to give people days off.

 

[JohnRice]

Lost in all of this (re: how masks are being equated as a political statement) is the fact that we essentially didn't have a flu season due to people staying home and being masked when going outside.

This should be an object lesson for society to allow people to stay home from work when they're ill, rather than the common "we tough it out when we're sick" mentality. And if you absolutely have to go in to work while sick, wear a mask. But really, workplaces should give people PTO because it ends up costing the economy more to have a sickened workforce than to give people days off.

In late 2019 didn't something spread and pretty much wipe out your entire office?

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Lost in all of this (re: how masks are being equated as a political statement) is the fact that we essentially didn't have a flu season due to people staying home and being masked when going outside.

This should be an object lesson for society to allow people to stay home from work when they're ill, rather than the common "we tough it out when we're sick" mentality. And if you absolutely have to go in to work while sick, wear a mask. But really, workplaces should give people PTO because it ends up costing the economy more to have a sickened workforce than to give people days off.

100% this.

I don’t think I’ve ever held a job that came with sick days where the corporate culture encouraged people to actually use them. That needs to change immediately.

 

[Carlo_M]

In late 2019 didn't something spread and pretty much wipe out your entire office?

Yes (and part of me wants to believe it was early COVID since she came back from a vacation in parts of China and Japan). But I'm talking about the 2020-21 flu season, which was essentially a non-season. We weren't masking/social distancing in late 2019.

 

[Mysto]

100% this.

I don’t think I’ve ever held a job that came with sick days where the corporate culture encouraged people to actually use them. That needs to change immediately.

Well one problem is most people don't want to "waste" sick days on when they are sick.

 

[Josh Steinberg]

Well one problem is most people don't want to "waste" sick days on when they are sick.

And that needs to change too. There’s nothing “tough” or “brave” about making your colleagues sick.

 

[JohnRice]

Yes (and part of me wants to believe it was early COVID since she came back from a vacation in parts of China and Japan). But I'm talking about the 2020-21 flu season, which was essentially a non-season. We weren't masking/social distancing in late 2019.

Well, that isn't all you talked about. I was actually referring to "This should be an object lesson for society to allow people to stay home from work when they're ill, rather than the common "we tough it out when we're sick" mentality".

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I don’t miss the multiple seasonal colds and illnesses I’d regularly get working next to visibly ill colleagues in enclosed, poorly ventilated spaces.

 

[Carlo_M]

Well, that isn't all you talked about. I was actually referring to "This should be an object lesson for society to allow people to stay home from work when they're ill, rather than the common "we tough it out when we're sick" mentality".

Oh well yes, and it was an object lesson as to what I was saying. And in her defense she was literally at work one day and hit most of us (even though we aren't all sitting that close together) which is why I am only half-joking that it could have been covid, because it spread so brutally fast. She stayed home the following days, but one day was all it took. She initially thought it may have just been allergies or maybe a common cold. We were much more innocent in 2019 (and we have a very generous PTO policy for both vacation and sick). She didn't think it was anything horrible on the day she came in, and woke up feeling much worse the second day and stayed home.

 

[Carlo_M]

Speaking of being more innocent (or maybe naive is a better term) in the past...so now I'm ten days past my second dose, and I know I don't have covid. However I do take a pill for which a side effect is a chronic, but infrequent, cough. When I'm outside and have to cough, I'm super paranoid about it now, whereas before March 2020 I never gave it a second thought.

Nate Bargatze, the comedian, has a new Netflix special and he addresses pretty much how coughing in public is a non starter now.

 

[Tony Bensley]

Speaking of being more innocent (or maybe naive is a better term) in the past...so now I'm ten days past my second dose, and I know I don't have covid. However I do take a pill for which a side effect is a chronic, but infrequent, cough. When I'm outside and have to cough, I'm super paranoid about it now, whereas before March 2020 I never gave it a second thought.

Nate Bargatze, the comedian, has a new Netflix special and he addresses pretty much how coughing in public is a non starter now.

With my environmental allergies and the annoying accompanying tendency to phlegm up, I'm all too self aware now. On my way back from a short, but necessary COVID-19 Vaccine related errand, it was so bad, I was very tempted to pull down my mask and discreetly cough it out, but the presence of nearby city workers clearing up some foliage rendered that an utter impossibility. Before March 2020, I probably wouldn't have given it a second thought.

A bit more off topic, but speaking of allergies, I've just recently been scheduled for an allergy test in late August.

CHEERS!

 

[jayembee]

I don’t think I’ve ever held a job that came with sick days where the corporate culture encouraged people to actually use them. That needs to change immediately.

Because the corporate culture assumes that employees will take a "sick day" when they're not actually sick, just to have an extra day off now and then. And that's just...unacceptable!

At one point, because of the person she immediately reported to at the time, my wife was able to call in and say, "I need a Mental Health Day today," and her supervisor would allow it. What she really wanted to say, but couldn't quite bring herself to do it, was, "I'm too well to come in today."

 

[Tony Bensley]

I'm actually getting TWO needles today: The first one being at my Family Doctors office for the Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine, and a previously scheduled appointment for blood work that could not be changed!

Not all of the potential sub-sequential over-tiredness will be from the COVID vaccine!

CHEERS!

P.S. I'll try and keep everyone appraised in regards to any side effects that I may experience, but most of all, if I start speaking like "Lord Paddington" in "A Chump At Oxford (1940)!" (Thanks, Terry!)

"Lord Paddington" (Stan Laurel) on the right!

 

[Arthur Powell]

I'm actually getting TWO needles today: The first one being at my Family Doctors office for the Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine, and a previously scheduled appointment for blood work that could not be changed!

Not all of the potential sub-sequential over-tiredness will be from the COVID vaccine!

CHEERS!

P.S. I'll try and keep everyone appraised in regards to any side effects that I may experience, but most of all, if I start speaking like "Lord Paddington" in "A Chump At Oxford (1940)!" (Thanks, Terry!)
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"Lord Paddington" (Stan Laurel) on the right!

Just be happy that Stan and Ollie aren't taking you to the dentist.

 

[Tony Bensley]

Oxford Astra-Zeneca Vaccine Pilot Recipient #1 for our Medical Clinic:

According to my Proof of Vaccination info, I must return to the same location for my second dose Friday, July 30, 2021 at 1:00 PM! This is one of only 7 clinics in London-Middlesex currently offering the Oxford Astra-Zeneca vaccine to their eligible patients.

That I got ridiculously lucky in getting vaccinated at this stage isn't at all lost on me! I just hope this happens in a big way for everyone else real soon!!

CHEERS!

 

[Jeff Brooks]

We finally managed to get scheduled for the J&J shot at Publix for Sunday. With some recent stories in the news about problems with J&J reactions, my wife is having second thoughts. Should we be concerned?

 

[Josh Steinberg]

I wouldn’t be - the number of reactions reported in the past few days are statistically insignificant relative to the number of doses given out, and all fell within the range of expected side effects. To me, it shows that the system is working - when you get the vaccine, you’re asked to hang around for 15 minutes to make sure that there isn’t a severe reaction. For the dozen or so people who had a reaction, it was within that time window and they were given appropriate treatment. Most were fine after just a little bit of juice and crackers, and a couple were taken to the hospital out of an abundance of caution but turned out to be fine in the end.

As inconvenient or unpleasant as that may be for those handful of folks, taking the shot and having that reaction is still a far less harmful consequence than not being vaccinated and getting covid.