The cold, hard reality of being a model at (import) car shows....

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  1. Danny Tse

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    Sorry, not from my own personal experience.

    But I saw the following post on this website.



    At the bottom of the page, there's link to her webpage.

    **Disclaimer** I don't know her and I have never even been to an import car show.
     
  2. Leila Dougan

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    Wow, I really pity the women who are forced to take on this job [​IMG]
     
  3. Bill_D

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    I feel her pain.

    I haven't sold a picture of myself yet. Not one!
     
  4. Brett DiMichele

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    When you decide to sell your body as meat why should you
    expect nothing else than to have the meat handled...

    Takes a lotta brains to go to a car show in a skimpy mini
    and bra top and smile...

    Ohh I wanna be a Mooooodel... Ohhh Ohhhh..


    Nah that's ok I will earn my money the old fashioned way...
    WORK for it.. Ohh yeah and my feet get tired too... And
    Import car shows blow [​IMG]

    But that's all just my opinion [​IMG]
     
  5. MarkHastings

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    LOL - While reading that article I just kept thinking:Who ever thought that "auto show girl" was a glamourous profession to begin with?
     
  6. andrew markworthy

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    Not everybody has been lucky enough to get a middle class education with parents supportive enough or with the money to give a decent start in life to their kids. For some women, this is the best break they are going to get from a shitty dead end job and no-prospects life. I think before we mock, just think about what drives some people to do this sort of thing, and how *great* they must feel when middle class kids look down their noses at them.

    Think about it this way - if any of you had daughters, how pleased would you be if this was the best job they could get?
     
  7. John Watson

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    And these middle class types have jobs as pimps for commerce or ideologists of greed, yeah I agree with Andrew's observation, oh what the machine does to people, throwing stones in glass houses and all that.

    Personally I think those Japanese Race Queen sites are among the flowers of the Internet
     
  8. Leila Dougan

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    If 95% of them have regular day jobs, then surely they don't rely solely on this "modeling" job.

    I wasn't born with any great looks or body, so I only have my mind to rely on. Not bad motivation, really, to work my ass off to make a living.

    If a woman is blessed enough to be able to have a job that relies on beauty then certainly she is more than welcome to use that to her advantage. But when things don't go her way, there's no reason to complain. There are plenty of other jobs that don't require thin, perfectly tanned bodies that 17 year olds want to grab.

    If my daughter had such a job I would be sad that she does not think highly enough of herself to find work she might actually like.

    How about, instead of spending all that spare time (she's already got a full time job, remember?) making zero money and being miserable, why not take a few classes to better her chances of landing one of these supposed "middle class" jobs?

    She has even said the only girls that advance and do well are those motivated and dedicated enough. By her own standards, she obviously isn't. That's a big red flag that she is not be cut out for this type of work.

    There's a world of difference between someone who truly cannot do any better and someone who has a side hobby that makes them miserable.
     
  9. Scott L

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    Follow the link to where it's from and read the context. Someone asked her "[is it] really as glamorous...?" It's not like she went out of her way to type an article about being fed up about her job.

    I think it would be perfectly fine to be a car show model, but if they go over the top in their (lack of) clothing then they should be prepared to meet the consequences. There are still very tasteful car show models.. don't know why there are more sleazy ones at the import shows.
     
  10. MarkHastings

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    Leila [​IMG]

    What does a model have to do with an automobile? She's using her physical appearance to gain interest. As Liela said, it doesn't matter how your upbringing was, if you use your appearance to make money, be prepared for comments.
     
  11. Leila Dougan

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    I agree she was just answering a question. I think her answer applies to most of the entertainment industry, from actors, to musicians, to models.

    I understand now that she wasn't talking about herself and complaining, so that's good. She was just telling it "like it is" and for anybody entering the business to be forewarned. Okay, I see now. But *if* it was one of those miserable women writing and complaining, I'd feel the same way.

    I think the big thing is the person entering that industry has to know what it's ilke. No, it's not all roses but there is potential if you work hard enough. Just like any other job.

    Okay, my apologies.
     
  12. Danny Tse

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    Check out Lianne Lin's bio....



    And she designed and authored the whole website herself.
     
  13. Garrett Lundy

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    I have to agree with Mark, who knew auto-show "models" were supposed to be glamorous? I thought they just wrangled a group of local escorts & sorority sisters into bikini's and or body paint (2003 Yamaha motorcycle exhibition [​IMG] ) for $50 and they were all universally forgoten within a half hour.

    I just wish most of the cars could be forgoten in a half hour.
     
  14. Jeremiah

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    Not to be an ass but what will a Bachelor's degree in art really get you? Will that kind of degree help a person in any way?
     
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    I have one experience with a person who earned a bachelor's degree in art and he has so impressed me I've learned it's not what the degree gets you but what you do with what you have.

    We started at the same time but after the second term he decided he may not need a degree to be an artist and left. While he was out of school he did a lot of traveling, one trip consisting of riding his bicycle hundreds of miles cross country. He also continued to take classes here and there, but from what I understood was not a full time student. When he came back to the university it was my fourth and final year. It was for him too, despite having taken a "break" as a student. I'm not sure how he did it.

    About a year later, I discovered an article about him in the paper. He independently released a CD! When he was a freshman he was just learning to play the guitar. After that he released several more CDs and even put together his own basement studio where local, grass roots musicians went to record, creating his own local label in the process. He also continued to paint and have showings of his work.

    I'm not sure if he really needed to get that scrap of paper, because it's obvious no matter what he did he would be committed to it 100%.
     
  16. BrianW

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    Well, not that anyone's asked, but I gotta say that being a software engineer is every bit as glamorous as I dreamed it would be.

    No, really. Every bit.
     
  17. andrew markworthy

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    Sorry, I think I was a bit grouchy with my first post - my only excuse is that my temporary cappings were playing up last night.

    What I was trying to say was that I think we should be a bit more sympathetic to women who do this sort of modelling job. I'm not trying to toady up to the women contributors on this thread, but I feel genuinely uncomfortable seeing semi-clad women doing this sort of thing. Partly it's an awareness of all the issues of sexism, etc, but it's also the thought that low-grade modelling may be the most exciting and glamorous thing that these women will ever do, and I genuinely find that depressing. On top of that I don't think anybody should have to endure jackasses fondling them or leering. To me there's a clear-cut divide between honest open admiration and being a lecher.

    Incidentally, I don't think the original article was particularly whinging. It was rather more a case of showing that there is a downside to this sort of work that I think a lot of folks don't realise.
     
  18. MarkHastings

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    And hopefully you didn't see my comments as particularly mean. I assumed this thread was one of those "Fun" threads where we bust on people (like the guy who named his kid v2.0 [​IMG]). Again, all in good nature.
     
  19. Leila Dougan

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    And I wholeheartedly agree with you. I don't care for this type of work either. And you're probably right, it'll be the most exciting and glamorous work they will ever do. My point is, though, that if they are able to do that kind of work they're already above the rest of us. Based on genetics alone I won't *ever* do anything nearly as glamorous. If they like the work, they should consider themselves very lucky. If they don't like the work, all they have to do is pretend they aren't beautiful/thin/whatever and work the crap jobs the rest of us have to work.

    I don't agree with men fondling them or taking advantage of them, but unfortunately that is what happens. I can assure you nobody would be grabbing at them when they're wearing a polyester uniform flipping burgers. On a certain level, I think a lot of them do like the attention otherwise they wouldn't have taken a job that involved nothing but their looks.
     
  20. MarkHastings

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    [​IMG]

    I agree too that men shouldn't fondle them, but when a model complains about the fondling, all I can think of is a man waving a $20 bill (or food) in front of a homeless person and then complaining when that homeless person tries to snag it from his hands. [​IMG]
     

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