The art of upgrading a DVD collection

Jim_K

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With DVD having long gone mainstream it seems that it's getting a bit tougher for me to sift through these numerous SE re-issues. I'm growing a bit leery of repurchasing the same titles over & over again unless there's a vast improvement as far as A/V & or content.

Some of these SE re-issues are no brainers such as
Goodfellas
Mean Streets
Blazing Saddles


It'd be tough not to improve on bare-bones, early gen discs. Not to mention the faith I now have in Warner products.

I currently bought The Good Bad and the Ugly & Great Escape SE's based on the specs & because once again it'd be hard not to improve on the original discs. Haven't watched 'em yet but based on reviews that I read, I have faith that I'll be satisfied.


I'm not entirely convinced that the following reissues would be worth a repurchase for me.

Predator - This would be the 3rd release & from all reports this has the very same transfer as the previous two. yippie


rumored late 04 - The Fly - Rumor has it that it will be the same transfer (Cronenberg wanted to fix this but the studio nixed it?). On the plus side there are some excellent extras that could be included & it won't be saddled with the awful Fly II.

rumored 04 - Heat - Haven't watched my disc in a while but I remember nothing that would indicate that the transfer could be improved upon in a major way. The extras would have to be outstanding for me to repurchase.

Untouchables - This transfer could be improved (but will it?), not to mention the lousy audio problems (will they fix it?). If it's the same A/V on the SE then forget it.


Any thoughts or corrections on the ones above?

Any major upcoming re-issues of note that I didn't mention?
 

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Not a fan of extras so I only upgrade if the A/V specs are improved. That said, Predator is the same transfer?
I'd pick up the Heat SE if it gets DTS, which I don't believe it will.
 

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I feel the same way and resist virtually all re-issues unless stunning A/V improvements are made.

Repurchasing the same titles is painful because there are other titles I have yet to purchase at all.

The GB&tU reissue, for example, is a modest improvement in terms of A/V, although some may still prefer the older English mono mix.

Extra footage and supplements are good, but I can't drop $20 on this.

Maybe if I just had 100 favorite movies and was dedicated to maintaining the highest standards...but I tend to favor quantity of choices over absolute quality.
 

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I only upgrade when there is an audio, or particularly, video change. Even if the improvement is slight, I upgrade and usually sell the "old" version on Ebay. I have a 61" ISF'd display and always strive to get the best video. Supplements are never a reason for my buying or upgrading.

Regarding a few titles mentioned.... I do think Heat will be improved. Compressioning and authoring have improved tremendously since the original release.

I am definitely looking forward to Goodfellas.

Predator appears to be the same transfer, so I don't have to be concerned about this one (which is nice).
 

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For me there either has to be improved picture quality or new deleted scenes (or a director's cut, etc.)

In the case of the Good, the Bad & the Ugly, we're getting what amounts to a pseudo-directors cut, with scenes put back into the film (although it's still not the original cut). That alone makes it definitely worth a repurchase.

Das Boot with the original, longer cut is coming on June 1.
 

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Some good examples of upgrades that I have purchased:

Robin Hood - 2-disc extended edition with DTS audio

Armageddon - Criterion, basically for the extras

Black Hawk Down - Deluxe 3-disc, again for the extras

Dances with Wolves - DTS version, bought this version after I bought the extended edition just so I would have both the theaterical version and extended version and DTS. I kept the extended version as well.

Pearl Harbor - 4-disc version, liked all of the extras and it's historical significance in general

The Rock - Criterion, DTS track (even though some say it's not good, I like it)

Saving Private Ryan - DTS version, had the DD only version and once I got my receiver I had to get the DTS version

Splash - widescreen and new DD 5.1 track

Traffic - Criterion, extras again, I really liked the movie too

Windtalkers - 3-disc version, was really cheap and I liked the movie enough

Now as far as what you mentioned:

Predator - I will buy it just for the extras and keep my DTS version. I expect an Alein vs Predator trailer on there also.

Heat - I am praying for a DTS track just for the shootout, what a scene.

Goodfellas - am still holding off buying it until the SE, it will be worth it.

I guess that's all I have to comment on. It's a pain sometimes when you see new versions come out but in the end only you can decide whether it's worth it or not.
 

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Jim_K I hated "The Fly" and have mine set to play "Fly 2", or if I feel like watching "The Fly" I can hit the 'flip' button on CX-475P to "The Fly". I must have got a bad disc for my "Predator" is almost a vhs yech view w/s, sound on the disc is great but picture is not.
 

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thanks George, I was unaware of this one.

I'll have to check out the specs in order to decide if it's worth it as this would be the third time I've bought this on DVD.
 

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My double dips:

2001
Akira
Alien
Aliens
Alien 3
Alien Ressurection
American Werewolf In London
Apocalypese Now (I have both versions)
Evil Dead
Evil Dead 2
Army Of Darkness
Black Hawk Down (SE and R3 Superbit)
Bram Stokers Dracula
Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon (I have SE and Superbit)
Dances With Wolves (I have DTS and SE)
Night Of THe Living Dead
Dawn of The Dead
Day Of The Dead
Die Hard
Die Hard 2
Die Hard 3
Dirty Harry
Dracula (1931)
Ed Wood (both recalled versions)
Exorcist (I have the SE and the new verison, I had the 1st release, too)
First Blood
Frankenstein
Bride Of Frankenstein
The Fugitive
The Shining
Full Metal Jacket
A Clockwork Orange
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly
The Great Escape
Gremlins
Halloween (I own the 2 disc SE, and the Divimax)
Interview With The Vampire
Hunt For Red October
Patriot Games
Clear and Present Danger
JFK
Last Of The Mohicans
Lawrence Of Arabia
Manhunter
Metropolis
Monty Python and the Holy Grail
Panic Room
The Pink Panther
The Pink Panther Strikes Again
Planet Of The Apes
The Princess Bride
Leon, The Professional
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Ran
Seven
The Sixth Sense
Sleuth
The Thin Red Line
Tombstone
Unforgiven
True Romance

..and I may have forgotten a couple.



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Ouch!!!

I got a 'list' too!
Butt, thank goodness NOT as long as your!
However, I didn't want to even have one repurchase.
No such luck!
 

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Thanks for the link George. Looks like a drop in A/V quality vs. the superbit so I'll probably just rent it.


Jeremy,

I think I have you beat by a few. This is not something that I'm proud about.
Here are my double/triple dips over the past 6 years (the ones I remember that is).

Casablanca
2001
Dr No
From Russia With Love
Goldfinger
The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
The Great Escape
Lawrence of Arabia
Planet of the Apes
Spartacus
Zulu
Alien
Dirty Harry
The Exorcist
Mad Max
One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest
The Outlaw Josey Wales
Slap Shot
Aliens
An American Werewolf in London
Das Boot
Conan the Barbarian
Die Hard
Die Hard With a Vengeance
Escape From New York
Full Metal Jacket
Lethal Weapon
Manhunter
Platoon
Predator
Ran
The Right Stuff
Robocop
Scarface
Star Trek 2
Star Trek 3
Star Trek 6
The Terminator
Time Bandits
Bram Stokers Dracula
Carlitos Way
Dances With Wolves
Donnie Brasco
The Doors
La Femme Nikita
The Fugitive
Goldeneye
Hunt For Red October
Interview With a Vampire
JFK
Last of the Mohicans
Leon
Nightmare Before Christmas
Pulp Fiction
Reservoir Dogs
Seven
Silence of the Lambs (x3)
Starship Troopers
T2 (x3)
Total Recall
Tombstone
True Romance
Unforgiven
Almost Famous
Black Hawk Down
Lord of the Rings Fellowship
X-Men
 

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Thanks for posting your DDs, I didn't know there were multiple versions of some of those DVDs.

Maybe this thread should have been titled 'The Economics of Upgrading a DVD Collection'.

Seriously, the only DDs I've allowed myself are ST 5&6.

Neither are great movies, but the combination of 16x9 + extras made it worthwhile after Day One sales minus trade on old copies.

Saw a deal on 'The GB&U' at Coconuts/Strawberries/Fey ($10 after mail-in rebate and even less if I traded my old copy), but it's just not worth the hassle.
 

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I have upgraded quite a few DVDs for extras.
I like all the bells and whistles that come
with the movies, especially commentary tracks.
If I have interest in a movie, I try to get the
best available version of it, even if it means
double dipping.
 

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