Well as of last night I joined the two Xbox club. I wanted a second machine to support my launch Xbox, also I wanted to put one on my 30" Widescreen Tube set, for those things I'm hanky to play on my Mits 65" RPTV, especially games that are really too dark on the bigger set, i.e. alot of FPS's. Anyhow set up was a breeze to copy my Live account over to the new machine. And I think I was lucky enough to get a samsung drive !