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TCM showing short version of Raintree County 168 minutes instead of roadshow 188 minutes at 5pm EST (1 Viewer)

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I know TCM has the longer roadshow version of Raintree County as I recorded it many years ago. Don't know why they are showing the short version.
 

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My understanding is that they leased usage of the Roadshow elements from a collector and then intercut the color-turned-red footage with a standard print. The lease seems to have run out. Don't know the status of the 70mm pre-print material. (70mm prints of RC were never shown in the U.S. back in '57.) Hopefully somebody's making plans for a Blu-ray somewhere. 2012 is anniversary 55.
 

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billlit said:
My understanding is that they leased usage of the Roadshow elements from a collector and then intercut the color-turned-red footage with a standard print. The lease seems to have run out. Don't know the status of the 70mm pre-print material. (70mm prints of RC were never shown in the U.S. back in '57.) Hopefully somebody's making plans for a Blu-ray somewhere. 2012 is anniversary 55.
I have a copy of it and there is no color-turned-red footage. The roadshow print looked fine. It did come from a collector.
 

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I just glanced at it in passing tonight, but the little bit I saw, I thought the quality of the video was superior to the last time I watched it on TCM-HD.
 

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MattH. said:
I just glanced at it in passing tonight, but the little bit I saw, I thought the quality of the video was superior to the last time I watched it on TCM-HD.
Yes, it did look good. It also had more picture information (measured about 2.35:1) on both sides compared to my copy of the roadshow version - (measured about 2.15:1). This one is about 173 minutes and the roadshow is about 187 minutes. The extra scenes are before the intermission.
 

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Just discovered though shot in 70mm, or MGM Camera 65, Raintree County was never released in 70mm as all the theatres capable of showing 70mm were booked! Extraordinary.
 

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There’s a torrent on offer. Said it’s 720p. So I had to download some of it to see what it looks like and it isn’t very good. Hopefully someone will soon realise how many would like to see a decent Blu Ray restoration.
 

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