SVS upgrade - add a second sub? What would you do - and why?

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by Paul Gere, Jan 5, 2002.

  1. Paul Gere

    Paul Gere Second Unit

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    About a month ago, I bought a single CS-Ultra with the Samson 1000 amp. This thread is not intended to be a review- I'll save that for a future post. Suffice it to say that everything said about these subs in hundreds of other posts all over the web is gospel truth -they're the real deal.



    So here's my deal...

    I'm contemplating moving to a two sub configuration to even out bass response in the room and add just a wee bit more slam. I'm still within my 45 day "trial" on the Ultra.



    My room is 35 x 16 x 8h and is a sealed, dedicated HT room. Typical listening for movies is below reference but loud enough to make the point. [​IMG]



    What's my best option - and why?!?



    [a] Chill out and enjoy one SVS sub. After all, it's incredible, unrivaled bass.

    Bite the bullet for a second CS-Ultra or wait in the weeds to pick one up as B stock or used.

    [c] Return the single CS-Ultra I have now and get a pair of the new highly anticipated CS+ subs and power 'em with the Samson amp I got with my CS-U.



    Thanks in advance for your input!
     
  2. Bhagi Katbamna

    Bhagi Katbamna Supporting Actor

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    I go for option #4 if you are happy with the volume of the bass they put out.

    Option #4: Get an equalizer to smooth out your bass response and consider adding a CS+ or even a plain CS tuned to about 25 Hz for more slam.
     
  3. SVS-Ron

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    "My room is 35 x 16 x 8h"

    Whoa. That's not a HT, it's a REAL theater ;^) No question, get a second sub. Unless you are giving demos to little children and your grandma, you need the woofage.

    If you are flush with cash and/or concerned about having totally identical subs, then you can't go wrong with getting another CS-Ultra. But if it was my money, I'd build on Bhagi's suggestion...get a 20-39CS-Plus AND an ART 351 equalizer. The sub is 10% off right now for you as an SVS owner and will come within spitting distance of the CS-Ultra in performance. Its tune and size will match the CS-Ultra all but perfectly.

    Adding the ART will allow you to harness and tweak your bass for max impact. Given all the power you'll have I'd dial in a bit of subsonic filter at say 15Hz, and then bump up the response at 20 and 25Hz. It that doesn't have folks jumping out of their seats nothing will.

    I think subjectively you'll more than double your pleasure in the bass arena for what??? About $700? Hardly chicken feed I'll admit, but you'll find it nearly as signficant an upgrade at adding the first sub I bet.

    Ron
     
  4. Tom D

    Tom D Stunt Coordinator

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    Tes definitely 2 subs - I have a servo 15 along the rear 1/4 distance away from the side wall. Second sub pdr 10 to fill in mid bass half distance along the side wall - whoa what an impact. Try it youll like it.
     
  5. John Cain

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    Paul, I'm thinking just about the same thing as you are..

    Interesting idea Ron to get a 20-39+. I'm gonna assume that will a tad bit more "slam" or punch??

    Will the 20-39 be able to stay with the Ultra in terms of not bottoming out on those tough scenes like TPM intro???

    Thanks!!

    -- John
     
  6. Paul Gere

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    Ron/Tom,

    What do you think about John's questions?

    -PG
     
  7. Tom Vodhanel

    Tom Vodhanel Cinematographer

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    Hi guys,
    Paul, ideally...I'd add a second CS_Ultra. The 20-39CS+ would be very close in overall performance...but I'd just wait until you saw a B-stock CS_ultra. This way...you won't have a 2039cs+ and a CS_Ultra and then start wondering in 3 months if you should have just spent a little more for and went for the dual CS_Ultras[​IMG] (I trust you've seen the Brian weatherhead review on the Ultras?)
    Juan, if you want to add a CS+ to the CS_Ultra...and currently like the Ultra's extension and output...I'd just go for the 20-39CS+. This will closely emulate the overall sound of the Ultra right up to the loudest output levels you could imagine(in your small room!)
    John,
    the 20-39CS+ and the CS_Ultra would perform extremely close to one another right up to the limits of the 20-39CS+. The CS_Ultra will have a 1-2dB maximum output advantage over the 20-39CS+. Not much...but there's only one top dog at SVS,and it's the CS_Ultra right now [​IMG]
    TV
     
  8. Paul Gere

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    Tom,
    Yeah, you've got my number...I go back and forth on the CS+, but a second CS-U is where I'll probably land. Just can't quit until I know I've "topped out".
    If you mean this Brian Weatherhead review...
    http://www.hometheaterhifi.com/volum...s-12-2001.html
    Remember?...I sent you the link!
    [​IMG]
    -PG
     
  9. BryanZ

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    Option e) Bite the bullet, send back the amp and sub and get the SS, K1 amp, and eq. [​IMG]
     
  10. Paul Gere

    Paul Gere Second Unit

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    heh heh!
    BryanZ, even I have my limits!!
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