SVS PB1 vs Paradigm PDR-12

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  1. Rick Lyon

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    I see SVS gets a lot of praise and I would like some opinions. I have a paradigm setup and will be upgrading to monitor 7s for mains, CC-370 center, Titan rears and ADp-170s for surrounds. I have the PDR-10 currently and think I may need to upgrade that as well. I can get a good dollar deal with the Paradigm dealer trade up and the PDR-12 is around $500. THe SVS PB1 is $600 so I would be paying a few hundred more to get it.

    Which would win the sub test and by how much?
     
  2. Dustin B

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    Go to your Paradigm dealer and compare the PW2200 to the PDR12. The PB1 will best the PW2200 in an output comparison and from all reports sound quality is as good or better.
     
  3. Rick Lyon

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    So then you're saying the PB1 will be a few steps up on the PDR-12? The PW2200 is paradigm's best right? And the PB1 is better then the PW2200, so it would crush the PDR-12. Wow, I had no idea the SVSs were that much better.
     
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    Rick:

    Where are you located? In the US or Canada? I know you can get the PDR 12 between $400 to $500 in Canada. From what I can gather there isn't much of a performance difference going from a PDR 10 to a PDR 12. If you want to stick with Paradigm check out the PW2200 or the new PW2100 which has the same amp as the PW2200. The only difference is the PW 2100 has a 10 inch driver as opposed to the PW2200. How much can you get the PW2200 for? I wouldn't say the PW2200 is paradgim's best as they have the servo model (with a 15 inch driver) in their reference series.

    If you are in the US an SVS maybe a better deal compared to Paradigm. For Canadians SVS can get a little expensive (compared to Paradigm) with the exchange rates, but they seemed to be creeping down.

    Cheers..John
     
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    Right. Although I've seen a few folks have a preference for the pw2200 over the servo15...the servo15 really should be considered the top of the line...at least until the newer servo model is out (servo25 was it?) The pw2200 always did very well when Tom Nousaine measured it (in both extension and clean output). If you can try auditioning one of those for a weekend, you might find it is all you need. (esp if the room is
     
  6. Rick Lyon

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    GrahamJW- I'm in the US. If i stick with Paradigm, I can trade up and get up to $200 off the price. I'm not sure what the PW2200 goes for, but basically I want a sub that will be the last sub for while even if I end up in a larger room, etc. The PDR-10 is fine now, but I only have 6 months left if I'm gonna trade up. If I get monitor 7s and cc-370, I don't think the PDR-10 will hold up.

    Tom-How do you rate the pw2200 vs the PB1? My current room is 12x18.
     
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  8. Rick Lyon

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    Which is better tho? The PW2200 or SVS-PB1? I have a budget, but I mostly am concerned with value.
     
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    Well if you're asking what I would do. In the US I'd take the PB1 if I had to choose between the two. But since I'm in Canada the PW2200 is sufficiently cheaper that for the small performance gap to the PB1 I would go with the PW2200.

    However, in reality since I have access to some wood working tools and knowledge, I built my own. Follow the link in my sig if you want to see. Highest value possible going this route.

    PS- I sold my PDR10 a year ago or so for $350CDN to someone in the States. I'd expect you could get somewhere between $250 and $300 US selling it privately on Audiogon or Ebay.
     
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    So then there isn't much difference between the two? Well, I can trade my PDR-10 up for the PW2200, not sure what the rate would be. Or i can ebay the PDR-10 and use that towards the PB1. They seem to be about the same $600 area but I have to confirm the PW-2200 price with my dealer.
     
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    Graham,

    Where in Canada can you get the PDR 12 for $400-$500?
     
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    ShelbyB:

    I got quoted $500 for the PDR 12 version 3 at a Paradigm dealer in Ontario. The dealer also quoted me $600 for a PS1000 (new version). I ended up trading my PDR 10 in on a PW2200 v2. I listened to the PDR 12, PS1200 and PW2200 before I made my decision on the PW2200. A friend of mine picked up a PDR 12 demo model for $399 from a dealer in Southern Ontario (not sure which one).

    Cheers..John
     
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    The new verison of the pw2200 is 400 watts rms!! 1500 peak
    I cant wait to here it. I have the version 2 with 250 rms and a ps1000. My dealer told me the new ps1000 has output that is pretty close to the pw2200 v2, but the new 2200 should be a good solid contender for big bass
     

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