Survivor Season 37 and beyond (1 Viewer)

[Hollywoodaholic]

But a good villain to root against.

 

[questrider]

I just wanted to add how much we all hate Angelina (or whatever her name is... I keep wanting to call her Angelica but I know that's wrong). She reminds us so much of a relative of mine we dislike. I kept it to myself but then my wife said the same thing so now we're all united in our hatred. Everything she does is to play up to the jury. The whole rice thing from last week was a total creation to give her leverage when facing the jury. I couldn't help but notice two things when she met her mom - the first thing out of her mouth was bragging about the rice, and, far more telling, the moment she turned away from her mom all pretense vanished and it was like she wasn't there. Just like my relative, everything is a facade. I really want her gone, but I think she'll be kept around because despite how well she thinks she's playing, I think everyone sees through it and no one will vote for her.

And Angelina may get far but I think she cooked her own goose long ago with her transparent agenda, but right now she's the only one left I would be upset if she won.

Exactly. And what is the motivation behind a façade such as hers? Manipulation. And she's not very good at it either so her agenda comes off so obviously transparent. She's just that type of person who always has some sort of self-serving arrogant narcissism at play to get what they want. And she thinks she's cute and justified in this behavior too which makes it even more repugnant.

Angelina's grey yoga pants were also a bad idea...

It's always interesting when certain players (like Angelina) evoke such universal dislike.

I mentioned those pants to my wife, "who the hell wears sweat pants on a tropical island...."

I was coming more from the direction that they are not very flattering...

but that's only my opinion.

And it doesn't help that after however many days they've been on the island without bathing or doing laundry they just look gross because of their light color. I don't remember whether they were originally white or gray but regardless they are simply disgusting at this juncture of the game!

I've always liked Mike White whether it's the movies he's written or his performances (especially in HBO's Enlightened and when he competed with his father on The Amazing Race) so he's been my favorite all along and seems to be playing the game with the most integrity.

 

[Hollywoodaholic]

Perfect ending...

Spoiler

No votes for Angelina.
Mike goes to final and gets full Survivor experience (but never needed the money).
Nick's longshot win actually legitimizes the lame season theme of David vs. Goliath in the best and deserving way.

 

[Mike Frezon]

I thought this was an especially underwhelming season (after a couple of rock-solid entertaining seasons).

The highlight was the perfect use of the gimmicky "idol nullifier." But, outside of that, the only thing that will stay with me is the image of Angelina's non-flattering grey yoga pants.

I hope upon hope they will lose the gimmicky casting and theming which creates a completely unnecessary sense of "identity politics" among the cast. It's just a layer of crap which gets in the way of the genius premise of the show--which doesn't need any embellishment. Even when loaded down with this crud the show still finds a way to captivate. But if they continue to create these "twists" the producers will find they have just destroyed the integrity of the premise by undercutting the "rules."

I am also a little bored that the show has decided to make it a given that after an idol is played, another one is automatically placed back into the game.

 

[questrider]

I really wanted Mike to win but Nick deserved it as well. How Angelina thought she had any chance of getting any votes against those two is beyond me. What a delusional person...

I agree that I preferred it back in the day when there were only a few hidden immunity idols and now they are just rampant so people spend too much time looking for them because it's just expected there's always one or two hidden at all times. I also don't like the "themes" that are just a "layer of crap which gets in the way of the genius premise of the show—which doesn't need any embellishment." Well said, Mike.

They need to have a season where it just gets back to basics. Put 16 people on an island together from the start, throw out (or let them earn clues to) a few hidden immunity idols along the way, and let the natural politics and gameplay of having to work together but yet vote someone out each week work its magic until you're down to two remaining players with a jury. But, no, next time its "Edge of Extinction" or some other jive they don't need.

Also, whatever happened to the food auction? That was always one of my favorite parts of the game each season and now they haven't done it in a long, long time.

 

[Mike Frezon]

Also, whatever happened to the food auction? That was always one of my favorite parts of the game each season and now they haven't done it in a long, long time.

And they need to eat more bugs/larvae!

 

[Sam Posten]

What a delusional person...

www.reddit.com/r/raisedbynarcissists might be illuminating. She has many classic traits

 

[Dheiner]

They need to have a season where it just gets back to basics. Put 16 people on an island together from the start, throw out (or let them earn clues to) a few hidden immunity idols along the way, and let the natural politics and gameplay of having to work together but yet vote someone out each week work its magic until you're down to two remaining players with a jury. But, no, next time its "Edge of Extinction" or some other jive they don't need.

I have a change for them.

On first arrival, seem to divide into teams, then for the first six episodes do individual immunities and an overall TC where the vote-out can be anybody without an idol.

Oh, yeah, no hidden idols, but don;t tell them that.

 

[Mike Frezon]

Oh, yeah, no hidden idols, but don;t tell them that.

THAT would be awesome.

 

[questrider]

Also, am I the only one who thinks they need to go back to there just being only two finalists at the final tribal council? Historically (and I don't have the exact data) I believe that only two people get the majority of votes and there's always a goat—like Angelina—as the third who mostly gets very few votes (if any) so why do they even allow that third person to waste precious airtime during the finale? Just go back to two finalists!

 

[Mike Frezon]

Nope, I'm with ya.

And it would eliminate the chance of a tie (assuming an odd number of jurors).

 

[Dheiner]

Survivor: Edge of Extinction!
The new season started. As usual. I will be watching.

 

[Carabimero]

I don't like voted out contestants coming back into the game. Never have, never will, no matter the gimmick used to do it.

 

[Sam Posten]

Yeah, it defeats that whole "The tribe has spoken" thing.

 

[Mike Frezon]

I'm in. And agree about not like a mix of new players and returnees.

That said, Joe has to be one of the worst players ever.

"Oh no, I've already got a big target on my back, i'm going to keep a low profile and be sure to 'shone less' than the others on my tribe."

He then proceeds to take on all the big positions in the very first immunity challenge!

This year's drinking game: Throw one back every time someone says the phrase "target on my back." You wouldn't be able to remember who got voted out the next day if you did that for episode one.

 

[Hollywoodaholic]

I think the whole point of the Edge of Extinction rules is to give those return players a chance to stay in the game since they are usually the first targeted.

 

[Carabimero]

I really enjoyed last season. I thought it was as fresh as a plus-thirty-season show could have been. I said it after episode one. After this first episode of the new season, I'm not feeling that vibe. Not yet, at least. Last season the gimmick actually meant something and was interesting to me. This season, the jury is out. It's early, but I just don't see how the gimmick can really mean much. Hope I'm wrong.

 

[Paul D G]

**Spoiler space for the results of the first TC**

Reem did herself no favors at TC. We were initially disappointed she was being targeted but she did not take it well. Even as it drew to a tie vote she was utterly convinced she was going home and had no shred of hope it might go the other way. To be honest, if I was on the fence I would have voted her out too after her display at TC. But with the Edge of Extinction theme, she is the perfect person to participate. We laughed at the dinosaur claw torch snuffer.

I like Wentworth but she was not portrayed well in EP1.

Joe's mustache looked ridiculous on the boat, waxed out to pointy ends...

 

[Mike Frezon]

Joe's mustache looked ridiculous on the boat, waxed out to pointy ends...

Another way for Joe NOT to draw attention to himself!

 

[Carabimero]

My wife and I measure how good a season of SURVIVOR is by how much we talk about it during the week between episodes. Last season, after the very first episode, we started talking and didn't stop until a couple of days after the reunion show. This season we didn't even remember it was on tonight, and had nothing positive to say after tonight's episode.

Me: What's the difference between quitting the game in the middle of it and quitting it after you get voted out but when you still have an opportunity to play?

Mrs. Carab: Nothing. Quitting is quitting. That whole choice after getting voted out is shameful.

So far this season is a yawner. When they spend lots of episode time on fruitless idol searches, I like to shout at the TV, "They got nothin.' If the producers had something, we wouldn't be watching the same empty plot point over and over."

I know it's early, but after two episodes last season, we were loving it. The combination of returning contestants who already had their chance combined with the lame choice to possibly get back in the game after being lawfully voted out is, so far, crippling this season.