1. Sign-up to become a member, and most of the ads you see will disappear. It only takes 30 seconds to sign up, so join the discussion today!
    Dismiss Notice

Super 8 - An Amblin Entertainment Production, a J.J. Abrams Film

Discussion in 'Movies' started by Adam Lenhardt, Feb 7, 2011.

  1. Gary Hightower

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2006
    Messages:
    24
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Didn't care for this at all. The train crash scene and

    subsequent survival of the guy who crashed head on into it


    were so absurd that I wanted to leave the theater immediately afterward. I didn't because my friend bought my ticket, but it didn't get much better from there.
     
  2. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Executive Producer
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    12,044
    Likes Received:
    885
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    Like many of you I'm firmly in the demographic this movie is targeting, but its attempt to tap into my nostalgia for that era just didn't happen. With my 20th high school reunion coming up next week, you'd think I'd be especially sensitive to call backs to my childhood, but there was nothing. I completely understood what the filmmakers were trying to do, but like Dustin described, I've seen it before and better.
     
  3. Brett_M

    Brett_M Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Nov 19, 2004
    Messages:
    1,397
    Likes Received:
    58
    Trophy Points:
    1,610
    Location:
    Mos Eisley Spaceport
    Real Name:
    Brett Meyer
    I saw this on Sunday in a packed matinee showing. I loved it. My kids loved it. My wife loved it. I can't ask for anything beyond that.
     
  4. Hollywoodaholic

    Hollywoodaholic Edge of Glory?

    Joined:
    Nov 8, 2007
    Messages:
    2,891
    Likes Received:
    1,813
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    Location:
    Somewhere in Florida
    Real Name:
    Wayne
    Wow, so disappointed. It came across like a Mad Lib version of a Spielberg film - fill in the noun (or movie scene) and verb as needed. There's nothing wrong with the direction, and some of the suspense sequences are quite exceptional. But the script and payoff is pretty weak and so derivative of E.T. (alien's psychic touch) and Close Encounters (everyone staring in awe watching ship leave). Okay, I get it; it's an homage, but Abrams the director should have relieved Abrams the writer of that role to find a better third act.


    And this has the classic Spielberg manipulation of emotion rather than real emotion coming from the storyline. Sure, give the main kid a dead mother from the start to build instant sympathy rather than letting the sympathy develop from time spent with the character or real interactions. "Stand By Me" shows how to evoke empathy for characters without major tricks or manipulation often found in Spielberg films. Technique does not trump real and touching moments in character development. Didn't want to be so analytical about this movie, but that's the technique used to create it - like a Frankenstein movie of parts put together with way too much calculation, and not some organic imagination.


    What does it say when the 'amateur' zombie movie put together by the kids playing during the credits, has more genuine depth than the feature that preceded it?
     
  5. EricSchulz

    EricSchulz Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 6, 2004
    Messages:
    4,974
    Likes Received:
    408
    Trophy Points:
    4,110
    LOVED IT! Incredibly entertaining...a great throwback to the movies I loved growing up. Although I'm not sure how well today's kids will respond to it...

    Great group of child actors.
     
  6. Al_S

    Al_S Second Unit

    Joined:
    Nov 30, 2000
    Messages:
    446
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Saw it this past weekend and thought the acting was good but the movie felt kind of empty. It's been done before. It reminded me of the Goonies crossed with ET.
     
  7. Aaron Silverman

    Aaron Silverman Executive Producer

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 1999
    Messages:
    11,347
    Likes Received:
    844
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Florida
    Real Name:
    Aaron Silverman

    Isn't that exactly what they were going for?
     
  8. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Executive Producer
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    12,044
    Likes Received:
    885
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    It is what they were going for, but anytime that's done so clearly ("that" being an homage or derivation, or whatever you want to call it) it creates a burden on the new work to distinguish itself in some way or provide some insight, otherwise it's just a poor man's "whatever," carbon copy, etc. The references in the film are pretty clear, so much so that as I watched the film it did make me nostalgic for those films, but not in the way the filmmakers probably wanted. Essentially, I started wondering, "Why aren't I just watching [E.T.] [Close Encounters] [Goonies] instead?"
     
  9. Tom Logan

    Tom Logan Stunt Coordinator

    Joined:
    May 23, 2003
    Messages:
    248
    Likes Received:
    124
    Trophy Points:
    110
    Plot questions:




    How long had the monster been living under the cemetery? What was all the equipment doing down there? And if that place was the monster's (temporary Earth) home, what was it doing on the train so close to its home?


    JHMO: Any summer popcorn Spielbergesque movie that has the boy hero's dog disappearing (along with all the other dogs in the town) and then DOESN'T REUNITE THEM WITH THEIR OWNERS BY THE END is...well, let's say it's damn unworthy of its lineage. :)
     
  10. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Executive Producer
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    12,044
    Likes Received:
    885
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    The alien started living down there the night Joe saw the disturbance in the cemetery. It was starting to dig out the cavern at that point. So part of its special super alien powers was being able to move tons of earth...somewhere.


    All the other phenomena with the car engines and microwaves disappearing was it collecting stuff to build what I took to be a specific kind of electromagnet whose sole purpose was to attract the white cubes so he could reconstitute his ship and escape. Apparently this energy also created disturbances that messed with the military's weaponry.
     
  11. Jeremiah

    Jeremiah Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Jun 22, 2001
    Messages:
    1,578
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Spoiler gripes......

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    .

    I would like to know where all that dirt went from the alien digging his tunnels.


    How the hell does the driver of the truck that hit the train survive?


    The train crash was cool but obviously nothing like that would/could ever of happened, it's not the freaking bullet train.


    I still liked it tho.
     
  12. montrealfilmguy

    montrealfilmguy Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2011
    Messages:
    541
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Real Name:
    Ben Weaver
    WARNING : A spoilery kind of post.


    Saw it yesterday,and for 24 hours went with my heart.Now the head is taking over and telling the heart to take it easy.


    I have to conclude my view on it with the thought that the film tries too much to be a Spielbergian type of film but still fails.


    Just like when the last Indy came out,i still see it this way.Someone found the Spielberg book on how to make movies and thought

    "Well,now this doesn't look too hard,any Joe Schmo can do it.


    The Spielberg of 1979 is not the Spielberg of 2011,but the 2011 Spielberg gave free reign to Abrahms to try and emulate the 1979 Spielberg.


    Some parts do work ,( the kids creating the zombie film -points and kudos to the pyro lovin zombie actor )some parts fail.


    There is a HUGE difference between not showing the creature and not seeing the creature.For the most part it was just a blurry greyish woosh of a thing


    And yes,if that's the best the army can do to locate something that pretty much leaves a trail of destruction everywhere it goes,they suck.
     
  13. Cameron Yee

    Cameron Yee Executive Producer
    Reviewer

    Joined:
    May 9, 2002
    Messages:
    12,044
    Likes Received:
    885
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Since 2006
    Real Name:
    Cameron Yee
    I'm pretty sure the pyro zombie kid was the kid who played the young Kirk driving the muscle car in the Abrams Star Trek.
     
  14. Steve Tannehill

    Steve Tannehill Ambassador

    Joined:
    Jul 6, 1997
    Messages:
    5,547
    Likes Received:
    216
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Location:
    DFW
    Real Name:
    Steve Tannehill

    Nope. The Star Trek kid was in No Ordinary Family. His name is Jimmy Bennett. The kid in Super 8 is Ryan Lee.
     
  15. Henry Gale

    Henry Gale Producer

    Joined:
    Jul 10, 1999
    Messages:
    4,628
    Likes Received:
    1
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Real Name:
    Henry Gale
    I loved it, but like many others it did make me want to watch some other movies.

    In my case; "Explorers" (1985) and "Invaders from Mars" (1986).


    Glad to see the "movie in the movie" play during the credits.

    I recall that to see "MANT!" from "Matinee" (1993) you had to own the LaserDisc; which I do.

    Wonder if that extra ever showed up on a DVD??
     
  16. Ronald Epstein

    Ronald Epstein Founder
    Owner

    Joined:
    Jul 3, 1997
    Messages:
    53,038
    Likes Received:
    8,914
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Real Name:
    Ronald Epstein
    I agree with some of the comments here.


    This movie felt all-too-familiar. If it had been done

    in the 1980s when I was still in my youth, I probably

    would have fallen for its charm.


    However, I feel as if all this has been done before

    and I have come to the point in my life where these clichéd

    Spielberg-type films that don't deliver on the sci-fi level --

    but try to win you over with its emotional-pulling scenes

    involving kids and parents -- just doesn't cut it for me anymore.


    For me, this film is 30 years too late.
     
  17. Johnny Angell

    Johnny Angell Played With Dinosaurs Member

    Joined:
    Dec 13, 1998
    Messages:
    10,728
    Likes Received:
    3,284
    Trophy Points:
    9,110
    Location:
    Central Arkansas
    Real Name:
    Johnny Angell
     
  18. Zack Gibbs

    Zack Gibbs Screenwriter

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2005
    Messages:
    1,687
    Likes Received:
    3
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I don't see why anyone would be satisfied with the story about the kids. The majority of them are left behind for the 3rd act never to return. Even Fat Kid, the largest secondary character (npi), gets dropped because they don't know what to do with him.


    Elle Fanning ended up being nothing but a damsel in distress.


    And our main character Joe at no point in the film ever has a conflict who's resolution can be summed up as "Some times bad things happen." He hasn't had any problem 'letting go' of his mother. He's having a nice summer with friends, they're making a movie, he's mak'n on the hot girl in school. Joe was doing just fine in the movie I saw, he didn't have any problem to resolve except for his relationship with his father.


    Are Joe and his Father's issues resolved? No. They just hug at the end.



    Outside of the kids story, you have the stuff with Kyle Chandler and Ron Eldard. Abrams put in a mystery here too, and it tuns out the huge conflict these families have is that Eldard didn't go to work one day. Really? I was expecting at least an affair with Eldard and the Mother, even if it would have been obvious. Ultimately none of this gets explored at all, and Chandler decides to 'forgive' Eldard for no reason other than the movie is coming to an end.


    Then there's the monster. Someone compared the monster to Jaws earlier. Why would you treat the monster like Jaws... if he's supposed to be E.T.? We don't joyfully watch Jaws swim-off into the sunset do we, because it would have made about as much sense as it does in Super 8.


    ----


    Slightly off topic, but recently J.J. Abrams keeps talking about how he wouldn't rush the production of the Star Trek sequel just to make a release date. Which is exactly what happened with Super 8, which in turn is why ST is so far behind. I find it amusing... and then sad.
     
  19. Colin Jacobson

    Colin Jacobson Lead Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 19, 2000
    Messages:
    8,575
    Likes Received:
    2,592
    Trophy Points:
    9,110

    Nice point. Abrams shows the scenes of the scientists testing/torturing the alien to gain sympathy, but in truth, he's no more a victim than the shark. The shark's not evil - he just does what sharks do. The alien also doesn't appear to be evil, but dude's still chowing on people - not exactly a sympathetic character.


    I think it was a mistake to make the alien such an overt threat. If Abrams wants us to care about him, it's best to not treat him like the alien from "Alien", down there cocooning folks and chompin on them. Kinda hard to think "poor space dude!" when you see him bite off some innocent local's head.


    I think Abrams wants us to subconsciously - consciously? - view this flick's alien ala ET, but he does nothing to earn it...
     
  20. montrealfilmguy

    montrealfilmguy Supporting Actor

    Joined:
    Apr 17, 2011
    Messages:
    541
    Likes Received:
    4
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Real Name:
    Ben Weaver
    Sometimes it's like people in Hollywood try to connect us with the nostalgia gene and it ends up being

    a failed film.


    Remember this Ben ? remember the eighties ? here you go.


    Frick yeah,i remember the eighties,it's called my chilhood,and i clearly know it feels nothing

    like this.In another thread,i mentioned how i vividly remember standing up ,cheering clapping and crying at the end of E.T.

    with 500 strangers.I think that time is long gone.I suggest you get your beta/superbit/laserdisc/dvd of E.T. and watch that

    last shot before the credits of Henry Thomas and listen to the John Williams score,and you'll know right then and there.


    I always say that Star wars 1977 is a part of the 70's because of the times it was released in.Although Jaws

    was,i think the first film to pass the magic number of 100 million in summer box-office and be the first "feelgood " movie

    ending,i think Star wars had more of an impact because someone hadn't just made a shark explode,but had defeated an Empire.


    Of course,until an Empire struck back.
     

Share This Page