Sub Suggestions: $600-800

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  1. EdReed

    EdReed Auditioning

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    I'm looking to upgrade my CSW Base Cube 8. I have powered subs in my fronts(Infinity IL 5o)but I plan to operate those on line output.
    Music use=30% and HT=70%.

    I luv the lfe on movie soundtracts and really want to shake the house.

    Budget is 600-800, and the wife prefers the lower end of the range.

    Any suggestion are appreciated.
     
  2. Wayne Ernst

    Wayne Ernst Cinematographer

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    SVS 25-31 PCi. $549.00 + nominal shipping. Your wife will be happy with the price and you'll be happy with the sound.
     
  3. Dustin B

    Dustin B Producer

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    Why not the 25-31PC+. Or if you can go a few bucks over $800 the 20-39PC+.

    Also if you have some tools seriously consider DIY. $400-$600 can go a long way building your own.
     
  4. Bob McElfresh

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    Ed: you should know that there were two guys who used to help people build their own subs. They got so many requests from people if they would just sell their subs that they started a small company: SVS.
    The SVS is an outgrowth of DIY. While you could create a similar sub (assuming you had the tools), the parts would run you about $100-$150 cheaper than simply buying a SVS. (I tried pricing out a sub with similar specs to an SVS from www.diysubwoofers.com). The SVS subs are very well respected. One of the big advantages of SVS is that the owners/designers are members of HTF. We have watched them grow, add models, solve problems over the last few years. They will take care of you.
    Another brand in the $500 price range is HSU. This is a internet-only company as well, and Dr. HSU is a fixture at speaker shows. Even the "sub humans" from SVS praise the HSU subs. (Thats another reason Tom & Ron from SVS have my respect: they dont negative-sell against other repuitable companies.)
    I have DefTech 2000TL towers with 500 watt subs in each speaker. When I added a SVS sub, the sound levels were impressive, but .. rough. When I turned off the woofers in my towers and the sound smoothed out, but with little apparent volume loss, I began to be impressed. The ability to place the external SVS in a optimal position also helped the SVS out-perform the DefTech woofers.
    The only drawback to the SVS subs is: size. They are a bit on the large side. (You do need size to move lots of air at low frequencies.) Other subs perform "tricks" to try and produce low sounds with smaller drivers and enclosures, but there is usually a trade-off in needing more power, more complex circuitry (like servo-controlled drivers), and less-linear response. The SVS subs have a very smooth response by design.
    Hope this helps.
     
  5. RichardH

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    25-31PC+

    or if wife vetoes because of looks...

    Hsu VTF-3

    You'll be a happy camper.
     
  6. Sean Carter

    Sean Carter Stunt Coordinator

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    Add $100 to your budget and get an SVS CS-Ultra for $899.[​IMG]
     
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    I always like how people just keep adding more and more to someone's budget [​IMG]
     
  8. Wayne Ernst

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  10. Dustin B

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    Want to comment a bit on what Wayne has said.

    Savings- If you have to buy tools, agree savings go completely out the window. If you don't though, would be more than $100-$150. Something very close to the PCi could be built for less than $400 (and the cost difference between making one similar to the 25-31 or 16-46 would be essentially zero to the builder). Also the higher up the performance ladder you go with DIY the larger the savings become. For $500 you can build something that would compete with the Ultra (granted it will be almost twice the size).

    I agree completely on your tube comments. SVS tubing is better but nothing wrong with sonotube (the very first SVSubs where made with sonotube I believe).

    Adire and PE offer 3year warranties on all their stuff you'd use for sub building (some of PE's is 5 years I think). Both have decent return policies too. Just don't put a finish on the enclosure until you are sure you are happy with the result. And MDF is dirt cheap. Same will happen with amps sold buy others.

    And for those considering DIY, don't under estimate Wayne's last point. Even if you don't like wood working that much, the pride you'll have knowing you built that thing that sounds so great can make the effort worth it.
     

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