Sub for music listening

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  1. Mike Nep

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    I'm looking for the ultimate diy sub for music listening that will mesh well with a pair of floorstanding monitors I've built. Monitors go down to about 60hz. Anyone have any suggestions?
     
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    Ultimate? If you've got a crawl space or attic in the right spot go with an IB setup. If you're asking about a floor standing sub there's going to be varied opinions. I would guess it would be something along the lines of a Tumult or equivalant in a sealed enclosure with at least 750W behind it.
     
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    i think for the price a couple of AV15 sealed would treat you right

    oh yeah lots of power [​IMG]
     
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    Exactly. The common denominator here is they're both dual voice coil drivers that are capable of moving a lot of air and subs for music are generally made with sealed enclosures for a lower Q. With lots of power it makes for very clean, tight bass.
     
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    How about A Tumult in a 6 cubic foot sealed enclosure (Q-0.5) with about 1KW behind it, or better yet IB it. I think you would have the best sounding sub in the world period with that setup. And if you want to spend a little less, a Tempest can sound really good. I have a pair of Tempests in low Q (0.577) sealed sonotubes and I have yet to hear a sub that can even come close to sounding as good as these, and beleive it or not they are bad ass on movies!
     
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    How about 6 AV-15's in the attic IB emptying into a celing
    register port type deal.. Ohh yeah better add a couple of
    those QSC or Crown amps to the list to drive it all! [​IMG]
     
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    If you're not after the very high SPL that these guys think you are ( [​IMG] ), the Adire DPL12 is my favorite sealed box (what most consider when they think "music sub") woofer. Stick it in a nice ~75L box with only about 150-200w (I run mine with a PE 150w plate amp) behind it and you've got quality as good as it gets short of a big dipole setup. Check out this thread for Jon's typically detailed anaysis along these lines.

    As you see from the link to the driver, Kyle has them on sale for $125 shipping included. Given the modest power requirements, it's quite an economical setup also. If you think you want more volume, multiples are an option, as also discussed in the thread above.
     
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    Also don't forget the Dayton Titanic 1200 (Mk1). Along the same lines as the DPL12 Jack mentioned, it won't crack your foundation but its supposed to be fantastic for music in a sealed enclosure around 2 cu ft.
     
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    BTW Jack,
    Your link entitled "this thread" is exactly that. It's this thread. [​IMG]
     
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    Jon's conclusion on the DPL-12 is very enticing. I admit, for a small sealed box the numbers are great. I'm imagining having four of them stacked in the corner with my 1000W amp behind them. Could be amazing.
     
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    Jack,

    I howled when I clicked on it.. And then I thought about
    going into the OT section and making a thread saying "click
    this" and do the same thing.. It's like a Vertigo Loop! [​IMG]
     
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    Thanks for all of your replies. I've decided to run with dual tempests utilizing an infinite baffle sytem in a transition box to be mounted in my attic directly centered above my RPTV. Will be powered by an AVA250 plate amp. Anyone ever heard, built or dealt with this configuration? Yes, six tempests would be nice, but I have to show some kind of self control[​IMG]. By the way, I have an M&K MX150 MKII THX dual 12" push pull sub for sale now. 1000,00 obo pick up in San Diego area if anyone is interested.
     
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    The profit is going to fund this project and part of a new pair of Ellis 1801's for the bedroom![​IMG]
     
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    Tomorrow I'll have my two Tempests IB'd directly above my TV and flush with the fronts. Anyone have any last recomendations prior to any hole cutting?
     
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    I completed my IB finally and I must say, "Damn!" The bass that I have created is nothing short of the best I've heard ever. I'm not usually an over enthusiastic person, but there are things an IB setup can do that no enclosure based sub can even gets close to. I haven't taken measurements yet, but going through test tones, the dual Tempests can seriously rumble down and past 20hz. With my dual M&K's hooked up, the comparison was not even close. In short, now I have loud, low, controlled bass that I would have never dreamed of! I'll put mine up against a Krell Master Reference if anyone has one! Thanks to all of you who posted with suggestions and tips!

    IB for LIFE!
     

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