Studios move to DVD-14, -18 for ws & ps on one disc

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  1. Joseph DeMartino

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    According to the on-line edition of Video Business magazine the industry is beefing up DVD-14 and DVD-18 replication capacity in order produce more special editions with both P&S and widescreen versions, pluse extras, on a single disc.

     
  2. Gregory Pauswinski

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    That's an interesting article. Thanks for posting it Joe!

    I definitely support this move because it will help eliminate the confusion of which DVD you are buying - Widescreen vs. Pan & Scan

    Gregory
     
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    This is absolutely true based on other sources involved with replication with whom I have discussed this. I think it's great news. We could start a cottage industry making custom disc labels for the side with the 4:3 content. [​IMG]

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    Thank goodness. I've been getting very annoyed with industry ever since 4 different versions of American Pie II came out. That's slightly ridiculous. This is definitely a step in the right direction.

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    I've heard of moves toward this. Nice to see the wheels finally in motion. Good article; thanks! [​IMG]
     
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    Time to get one of those CD labelers so I can just cover up the P&S side with some nice artwork [​IMG]
     
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    Don't deface those P&S sides just yet...they often contain additional extras.

    DJ
     
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    I'm concerned how this will apply to rental disc the 2sided approach.
     
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    DVD 14s huh? hopefully that means a full two layers for the anamorphic OAR side, and one layer for the p&s side. After all do they really need to worry about compression and other issues for the side that the people watching are never going notice? [/sarcasm]

    and interesting move, I don't mind, just so long as OAR gets a preferential treatment, and is available on all titles instead of being dropped on so called family titles.

    Adam
     
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    How many minutes does two full layers for anamorphic cover? I mean I understand adding DTS or something else uses more space, as well. Can some please give me an example?
     
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    Up to 4 hours

    Most movies use dual-layer these days
     
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    The only good thing i can see come of this as it will give J6P (granted I doubt many will try it) the ability to compare to the two and realize what they're missing.
     
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    I still don't buy that "perceived value" thing from New Line, I'm annoyed when they make something a multi-disc set just to make it look like more. Something else they should consider for pan and scan though is using a lower bitrate for it to fit it on one disc- Vanguard puts out screener discs with 4 complete movies on one dual-layer side, but encoded at a low bit rate. I've watched a few of them and some look awful but some are surprisingly good- if they used that type of encoding for the pan and scan version I doubt anyone who opted to watch it would notice! I dare anyone to try this!!
     
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    I'm in favor of anything that increases the chance I can get a movie in OAR. If this is the best compromise, then I'm for it.
     
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    This is absolutely horrible news!

    Give me 2 discs with artwork anyday.

    1. The layer failure rate potential.
    2. The illegibility potential.
    3. The disc fix issues (you will lose the spine label).

    This sucks, moreso at rental.
    Use 2 DVD-9s please!

    Drop the extras if necessary.
    Otherwise WE WILL SEE A RENTAL WINDOW ON DISCS.
    trust me.
     
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    "The only good thing i can see come of this as it will give J6P (granted I doubt many will try it) the ability to compare to the two and realize what they're missing"


    Not the ONLY good thing, if studios start doing this, you will be able to find OAR at Blockbuster, and, if you must, Wal-Mart. Also big retailers will not be able buy big on P&S which skews figures in favor of it
     
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    rental stores would be much happier with 2 discs, 1 SKU, and double rentals.

    that's a compromise! [​IMG]

    the BEST solution.
     

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