mastermaybe
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- james
I've vented before, now here I go again.
So I bought a new sony xbr4 tv and now I thought i was finally ready to make the jump for a new receiver to utilize the new HD audio formats. Looking to integrate my audio with my video, the Sony ES line of receivers has moved in line with the onkyo 705 and denon 888 I've been considering.
Of course, there are significant hurdles (unnecessarily, in my opinion) with the es:
1. I know 1.3 hdmi doesn't seem to matter to many at this point becasue we dont yet have nething in deep color, the new HD audio formats can be sent PCM, etc. But it matters to ME. I think the mindset that because deep color is not currently being utilized (or maybe even in the next 12 mos) therefore u shouldnt be concerned about it is absurd.
I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't buy new receivers every 2 years. And while I'm not looking to "future proof" myself for ten, I would like to put myself in good shape for the next 4-5, and in that vein, I haven't read ANYTHING suggesting that deep color will not be in use within that time frame.
Ordinarily, I wouldn't make such a fuss over this kind of thing, but 1.3 hdmi is not exactly re-inventing the wheel. Onkyo has it on their new line and it's at least 6 mos older than sony. Just another pain in the *ss, that's all.
Second, the lack of the new lossless processing (dolby HD, DTS-HD) in a "new" $700-$1000 receiver is simply unacceptable to me at this point. Here's why:
While its great that most of the "new" receivers will accept the new formats via PCM, the incoming reality (already approaching, btw) is that the newer units (the HD PLAYERS) seem to be moving towards bitstream output (not sure why we ever strayed from this method anyway, seeing that's how its been done for as long as I can remember in the home theater game) which of course will render your brand new unit useless as far as the new codecs go.
What a nightmare indeed if you plunk 800 bucks down on "new" technology (the receiver) only to find out that you have to purchase "old" technology (an older HS player that outputs PCM) to play the "new" technology codecs (the HD audio, again).
I find this whole scenario to be unbelievably frustrating and destructive for the consumer. I pity the poor saps who don't follow this crap close enough to avoid this very plausible kick in the *uts.
Someone here please tell me I'm crazy and just buy the onkyo 705 to relieve my heartburn. Man I'm pissed about the sony...it would have been perfect!!!!
thanks,
james
So I bought a new sony xbr4 tv and now I thought i was finally ready to make the jump for a new receiver to utilize the new HD audio formats. Looking to integrate my audio with my video, the Sony ES line of receivers has moved in line with the onkyo 705 and denon 888 I've been considering.
Of course, there are significant hurdles (unnecessarily, in my opinion) with the es:
1. I know 1.3 hdmi doesn't seem to matter to many at this point becasue we dont yet have nething in deep color, the new HD audio formats can be sent PCM, etc. But it matters to ME. I think the mindset that because deep color is not currently being utilized (or maybe even in the next 12 mos) therefore u shouldnt be concerned about it is absurd.
I don't know about anyone else here, but I don't buy new receivers every 2 years. And while I'm not looking to "future proof" myself for ten, I would like to put myself in good shape for the next 4-5, and in that vein, I haven't read ANYTHING suggesting that deep color will not be in use within that time frame.
Ordinarily, I wouldn't make such a fuss over this kind of thing, but 1.3 hdmi is not exactly re-inventing the wheel. Onkyo has it on their new line and it's at least 6 mos older than sony. Just another pain in the *ss, that's all.
Second, the lack of the new lossless processing (dolby HD, DTS-HD) in a "new" $700-$1000 receiver is simply unacceptable to me at this point. Here's why:
While its great that most of the "new" receivers will accept the new formats via PCM, the incoming reality (already approaching, btw) is that the newer units (the HD PLAYERS) seem to be moving towards bitstream output (not sure why we ever strayed from this method anyway, seeing that's how its been done for as long as I can remember in the home theater game) which of course will render your brand new unit useless as far as the new codecs go.
What a nightmare indeed if you plunk 800 bucks down on "new" technology (the receiver) only to find out that you have to purchase "old" technology (an older HS player that outputs PCM) to play the "new" technology codecs (the HD audio, again).
I find this whole scenario to be unbelievably frustrating and destructive for the consumer. I pity the poor saps who don't follow this crap close enough to avoid this very plausible kick in the *uts.
Someone here please tell me I'm crazy and just buy the onkyo 705 to relieve my heartburn. Man I'm pissed about the sony...it would have been perfect!!!!
thanks,
james