Steely Dan's Gaucho.... why SACD?

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  1. John Kotches

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    I'm curious why the choice by Universal to release Steely Dan's Gaucho title on SACD when the production work was done in 24/96K.

    It seems to me, the best utilization of this would be DVD-A....

    Something to ponder after reading this article from Surround Pro's website.

    Rgards,
     
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    Well Universal did say that they aspired to put out 500 SACD's this year. I doubt they'll make it but they are keeping busy. Best wishes![​IMG]
     
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    Nope -- I don't think 500 SACDs are viable for this year either.

    Not knowing their accounting schedule, I can't say if they'd make it by the end of their fiscal year.

    I just found it interesting that the work was done for this disc at 24/96K, and is being released as SACD.

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    Very interesting article. It makes no sense to do this as an SACD if they are working at 96kHz. Maybe Scheiner felt the 96kHz provided better audio quality then a pure DSD master, or maybe he is just more comfortable with working with that particular rig. This could mean DSD is harder to work with then advertised, and without Sony's help on releases, this could easily be a new trend developing. Of course Universal could also decide to put this disc out on DVD-A as well later in the year so they decided to only do one master.

    Whatever the case may be, if a master is done originally in PCM, thats how I want to hear it. Or in this case, if a new master is being made for a SACD, do it in DSD please.

    J
     
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    The Surround Pro article doesn't mention the reason for the 96kHz format either. In fact, I didn't see DSD mentioned anywhere for that matter either. Hmmmm.............

    Maybe 96kHz is what the favored mixing equipment was limited to? There doesn't seem to be a lot of (any?) 192kHz-based post production stuff available yet.

    And, I've read many times now how many people (consumers & professionals) think 192kHz is only a little better than 96kHz sampling.

    Sumthin' weird is happening here [​IMG]--a dual hi-res format release??

    LJ
     
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    Justin said:

     
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    Does it bother anyone else that Scheiner used the Dolby SR process for the analog transfer?

    ...and that he brags about it?

    Dolby processes always introduce a layer of noise...

    On a more positive note, the magazine talks about the new Genex recorders that can do 48 channels of DSD. Apparently the pro gear makers continue to roll out lots of DSD gear to meet demand...
     
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    Lee,

    I have concerns as to whether you carefully read the article.

     
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    I think maybe we're allowing ourselves to become caught up in issues that have little to no relevance as to why a disc is released in one format or another. The ultimate deciding factor, I'm certain, is market penetration and the degree to which a studio has already backed a particular horse. But I don't think one can rule out the possibility of dual DVD-A/SACD releases of this title considering it's coming from Universal.

    My question is why 24/96? Why not 24/192? Is the added resolution simply not significant?
     
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    Rich,

    This is an excellent question:
     
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    Not necessarily Rich, UMG has announced that they are jumping into DVD-A.

    Look under New Formats..........

    http://consumers.umusic.com/
     
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    Like I said, I don't think one can rule that out. [​IMG]
     
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    So - who sayd I noes how ta reed bettr. :b

    It's early.

    Cut me some slack. [​IMG]
     
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