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I could not be more excited about this. A show set on Pike's Enterprise has been the show I wanted to see since Deep Space Nine was in production and they announced a fourth Star Trek show would be coming (which eventually became Voyager). I was thrilled when Discovery Season 2 introduced Pike, Number One and Spock and even happier that the actors playing them were so good.

An initial report in Variety says that the show might be more episodic in nature, like the original series, as opposed to the serialized nature of Discovery and Picard. As much as I enjoy Discovery and Picard, that would be great. Anson Mount, in his video statement, says the show will be "a classic Star Trek show" that "deals with optimism and the future."

Absolutely thrilled about this news.

Here is the Variety article:

And here's one from TrekCore, which always does a great job of summarizing the news:
 
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Wonder how many episodes this will last, until the crew reaches Talos IV (in The Cage).
 

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Wonder how many episodes this will last, until the crew reaches Talos IV (in The Cage).

Discovery Season 2 featured this crew after the events of Talos IV. I think it’s likely that the show will pick up where Discovery left off, with that in the rear view mirror.


But when will production start? Who knows?

I think that’s the $64,000 question but it seems these new Trek shows take about two years from announcement to air.

This is wonderful news.
 

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This is great news!! I was surprised they green lit it in a way. I knew the producers and CBS knows the fans really liked the Pike storyline in Discovery, but I figured they had enough shows in development to have the bandwidth for another series. Maybe one will be put aside or they spread out the premieres further out.

My guess, like Josh said, the new series picks up right after the Discovery affair. And according to the press release, Kurtzman or Akiva said they will go right up to right before Kirk takes command. Would that be cool, a CGI Shatner on the final episode. Or maybe they kick off the series with Pike transferring command to Kirk. And the series is about Pike’s 5 year mission.

I have to wonder how Spock will be handled. i watched The Corbomite Maneuver two weeks ago. Of course Nimoy had not nailed Spock yet, and Peck has the opportunity to play Spock with the knowledge of the fully developed Spock of later episodes.

Today’s Anson Mount’s message was great, the Earth is hurting right now, so I look forward to a positive Star Trek series.
 

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Still waiting for that Dr. Pulaski spin-off, though.

Although they'll certainly have adventures that might have a clean B-story, I'd be amazed if there's not still an overall arc, because that's simply the industry streaming-model now.

And I look forward to the threads:

"In the scene where Captain Pike drinks some coffee in his quarters -- did the bottom soles of his boots PRECISELY match the original '60s aesthetic, or is this simply more evidence that nobody cares on the production crew??!11?1?1?"
 
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I’m expecting to see this TV antenna thing in Pike‘s quarters or else I’m not watching! Ha, ha!

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Seriously, I am finding these season long arcs not very satisfying, I know it’s the soup du jour now. For example, while I liked Picard, I didn’t like the Macuffin. It felt contrived. So the entire season felt contrived. It would have been ok as a 3 or 4 episode arc. But I’m not a TV writer. Discovery’s second season Macuffin was OK. The first season, while I’ve not seen it since the blu ray release, I thought was OK as it had the background of the war as a setting, but the stories were not all about the war, granted they seemed to take a serious detour partly through.

Star Trek told allegorical stories weekly when it was at its best.
 

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Yeah, I'm done.

It's clear now that Star Trek died in 2005, and I can safely ignore the nostalgia bait Memberberry Zombie that ViacomCBS keeps pimping out to keep suckers subscribed to their streaming service.

I would say "call me when there's something fresh and new", but that won't happen under Kurtzman and CBS because there can't be a show without Spawk.
 

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Seriously, I am finding these season long arcs not very satisfying,

Star Trek told allegorical stories weekly when it was at its best.

Amen. I thoroughly enjoyed Picard, but the season-long arcs in every other show are simply tiresome. It's like they've forgotten how to write episodic television. The biggest problem - especially in shows that are 20 episodes or more - is that the show never really goes anywhere. You have to watch it for 9 months to get a story. It's extremely unsatisfying.

Picard was the exception. I liked the writing above everything else, and how the show built each week on what came before - and even then, many of the episodes were self-contained: the Romulan nuns episode, the Riker-Troi episode, the seedy casino planet, etc.
 

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Yeah, I'm done.

It's clear now that Star Trek died in 2005, and I can safely ignore the nostalgia bait Memberberry Zombie that ViacomCBS keeps pimping out to keep suckers subscribed to their streaming service.

I would say "call me when there's something fresh and new", but that won't happen under Kurtzman and CBS because there can't be a show without Spawk.
Gee, I think there’s some of those “suckers” on this thread. Me, for instance.
 

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I don’t know when we started living in a time when “this isn’t to my tastes” started meaning “anyone who likes it is wrong and stupid” but I don’t much care for that switch.

For me, it can be serialized or episodic, but I do like a certain amount of serialization at least on the character level. I start finding it unrealistic when character undergo life changing events that are never mentioned again from week to week. I don’t care if every episode is part of the story, but I hate things like the plotting in the TOS episode “Operation Annihilate” where in the span of an hour, you discover Kirk has a brother, sister in law and nephew, said brother and sister in law die horribly, nephew is orphaned, and Kirk is back to his chipper self at the end of the hour with 30 seconds left to spare and the family is never mentioned ever again. You could sell that in years past but I don’t think audiences are buying today. By all means, tell that story, but it’s too big of a loss to never come up again - it’s not believable.
 

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I don’t know when we started living in a time when “this isn’t to my tastes” started meaning “anyone who likes it is wrong and stupid” but I don’t much care for that switch.

This is almost identical to the notion of "badwrongfun" in the boardgaming world. ;)

 

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For me, it can be serialized or episodic, but I do like a certain amount of serialization at least on the character level. I start finding it unrealistic when character undergo life changing events that are never mentioned again from week to week. I don’t care if every episode is part of the story, but I hate things like the plotting in the TOS episode “Operation Annihilate” where in the span of an hour, you discover Kirk has a brother, sister in law and nephew, said brother and sister in law die horribly, nephew is orphaned, and Kirk is back to his chipper self at the end of the hour with 30 seconds left to spare and the family is never mentioned ever again. You could sell that in years past but I don’t think audiences are buying today. By all means, tell that story, but it’s too big of a loss to never come up again - it’s not believable.

Yes, there should be character growth over the course of a series. That's a different thing than having one main plot that takes nine months to tell. My favorite Star Trek is probably Deep Space Nine, for its healthy combination of stand-alone stories, serialized arcs, and characters who change over the course of time.
 

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It was nice that the uninforms on the New Pike Enterprise has the division colors. So we’ll see redshirts again. I’ll be curious if they do slight revisions again to either bring the uniforms more in line with The Cage or with the production Star Trek episodes. There’s no reason to keep those same basic asymmetric cuts used on the Discovery uniforms.

Hit it!

By the way, I am all for the serialized story telling. Makes sense that if something happens in one episode, it shouldn’t be forgotten the next week.
 

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As cool as this is, I think I'd prefer a show set in the early 25th century, centered around a new crew aboard the Enterprise-F, taking the story forward rather than just filling in more gaps.

It was nice that the uninforms on the New Pike Enterprise has the division colors. So we’ll see redshirts again. I’ll be curious if they do slight revisions again to either bring the uniforms more in line with The Cage or with the production Star Trek episodes. There’s no reason to keep those same basic asymmetric cuts used on the Discovery uniforms.
Assuming this takes place after the characters' run on "Discovery" -- say, late 2257 or early 2258 -- than I doubt it.

The decision by the "Discovery" team not to more closely align the design and technology to TOS has created a lot of problems. But given that "The Cage" takes place two years before the series premiere of "Discovery", the easiest way to have it make sense is that the Discovery uniforms were a short-lived outlier than were retired shortly after the Federation-Klingon War ended.

If anything, at some point the New Pike Enterprise uniforms should transition into the Kirk-era uniforms.

Also, the show should probably end with the Enterprise going into space dock to be retrofitted according to a new, more minimalist design style.

We know Pike gets his horrific injuries from the radiation exposure in 2266, and he's a fleet captain at that point. So that leaves a roughly 4-5 year window for "Strange New Worlds" with him as captain of the Enterprise.
 

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It definitely sounds like the people making this get exactly what we are saying in this thread. Here's Goldsman in Variety:

But it will, according to co-creator and executive producer Akiva Goldsman, hew more closely to the original Kirk-era “Star Trek” in structure and tone than those other recent additions to the franchise have.

“We’re going to try to harken back to some classical ‘Trek’ values, to be optimistic, and to be more episodic,” Goldsman tell Variety. “Obviously, we will take advantage of the serialized nature of character and story building. But I think our plots will be more closed-ended than you’ve seen in either ‘Discovery’ or ‘Picard.'”

“I imagine it to be closer to the original series than even ‘DS9,'” Goldsman says of “Strange New Worlds.” “We can really tell closed-ended stories. We can find ourselves in episodes that are tonally of a piece.” Of the type of episode that “Strange New Worlds” might attempt that “Discovery” or “Picard” might not, Goldsman says, “It’s hard to do a shore-leave episode in the middle of a long, serialized arc.”

“I think one thing that we always struggled with [as fans] was that Kirk is heartbroken at the loss of Edith Keeler in ‘The City on the Edge of Forever’ and has to be just fine the next week,” Goldsman says. “I think what we would want to do is keep the characters having moved through and recognizing the experiences they’ve had in previous episodes, but to be able to tell contained, episodic stories.

 

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The more I hear about this one the more I believe it's a Trek I can finally get behind. Those comments are encouraging. The only negative I see at the current time is that it's behind the All Access paywall.
 

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