Star Trek II SE due later in 2002. We knew this was coming. :-)

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  1. Matt_Stevens

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    Since they let Robert Wise fix his movie, I'm sure they'll let Nick Meyer correct his mistake and re-insert the Peter Preston footage. He always said that he never should have removed it. Hopefully they'll also clean up those nasty garbage mattes (VERY noticeable on current DVD)
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    What's the "Peter Preston footage?"
     
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    Peter Preston was the injured actor that Scotty carried to the bridge. In the missing scenes you find out that the reason Scotty is so upset is that the cadet is Scotty's nephew. You also notice the missing scene when Scotty and McCoy are talking in sickbay. In the final version their conversation seems chopped.
     
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    Didn't the Peter Preston footage make it onto a TV version? What else was deleted?
     
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    I knew I should have waited! Oh well, I guess I'll be picking this up...
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    that's coolio!!! I cant wait for an SE of this movie!
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    Was Peter Preston the guy played by Ike Eiseman (sp?) of "Escape From Witch Mountain" fame?
     
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    I just hope the FRIDAY THE 13TH movies recieve this treatment.
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    I am glad I waited and didn't buy any of the Star Trek Films on DVD. From what I have heard, I don't know how true this is so take it with a grain of salt. But Paramount plans to re distribute all the Star Trek Films on DVD as Special Editions. And that they will come out in order so Nov being the first special edition and summer 2002 being the second special edition maybe this rumor is true.
     
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    I used to watch a Beta tape of this movie that we had recorded from TV all the time. Not only is there extra footage, but several voice dubs are noticeably different.
    Glad I have held out on buying Trek DVDs.
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    It'll take at least 3 years before they are all released as SE's. That sucks. Loooooong wait.
    I just hope we can get an anamorphic TREK VI (in the proper ratio) and VII.
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    I will buy special editions of these and have no regrets about having bought the many of the current versions. They have given me a great way to see these films while waiting for the special editions that we knew were all but inevitable even when First Contact was released.
    Oh what a happy day it will be to finally have Star Trek VI in OAR with a new 16x9 transfer. I have always wondered what was up with the 2:1 ratio on that.
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    The other additional scenes from Star Trek 2 are very cool to see, but don't really add to the story, except the Peter Preston scene. I heard a nasty rumour that the Peter Preton scene could have been removed from the sickbay section is that Doohan's performance was perhap's over the top. After Peter Preston dies, McCoy expresses his condolences to Scotty and Scotty's reaction was what was cut out. I thought it was a good performance and should have been left in.
    Another additional scene missing is Kirk first meeting Preston in Engineering during Kirk's tour. He makes a comment to Kirk which Scotty stops.
    The next cut scene is interesting, where an extension of McCoy and Spock arguing over the moral issue of Genesis in Kirk's quarters after reviewing the Genesis proposal from Carol Marcus. It harks back to the series days when they would go at it with each other.
    There is a missing scene in sickbay after Preston dies and Kirk and McCoy wonder how Khan knew about Genesis. Interesting to see, but not vital to the story. More screen time for DeForest Kelley though.
    Finally, if my memory is still whole, there is a very short cut showing Spock decending down or up a Jeffires Tube on his way to Engineering to fix the warp drive and take his "Kobiyahi Maru Test". It was very short and the music was interupted by the insertion of the scene. Not an important insertion if you ask me.
    So the extra scenes are interesting, the only real loss is the Peter Preston backstory. It is interesting for Scotty fans as it adds to his character. If I forgot something, I'm sure someone will remind me!
    Can't wait to see the DVD too.
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    I'll gladly retire my bare bones version to get a special edition. I'm willing to bet that since Paramount is reissuing this one, they will reissue the rest of the series.
    I'm looking forward to it. Star Trek is a wonderful series and deserves special edition treatment.
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    Late in the film, just before the finale, Kirk says to Spock, "That man is my son" and Spock replies, "Fascinating."
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    I have this TV version that you guys talk about and do recall some addition, especially on Scotty and his nephew (dunno if that was cleared up in the theatrical). I never realised this NTSC TV dubbing was anything special.
     
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    Preston calls Kirk "Blind as a Tiberian bat", if I remember correctly. Also, the turbolift scene, is completely different. It gives close-ups of Kirk and Saavik, instead of the long shot on the DVD version.
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    If all of these turn out to be new transfers, I 'll buy them all.
    I still can't wait for TMP in November.
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