People keep getting mad at each other on these threads. I'd suggest: 1. We're on a quest to share knowledge 2. some of us are perturbed at the software kompanies and hardware kompanies for collectively giving us the run-around on either or both of the formats. We shouldn't take it out on somebody that we percieve liking the "opposing" format more/better/exclusively/along-those-lines! Many people like one or the other formats more than the other for a variety of reasons, better player for, more desirable ergonomics, more desirable software suppourt, can only afford what they now have (one or the other), or the other possible what-evers. So what? If there's a format war, it's not SACD versus DVD-A! It's not me versus you! It's the big five against ALL OF US! Me thinks they are who to vent on, not individuals. Be careful and thoughtful in these discussions and casual. Isn't this a casual place? It do not seem like 'da KGB secret court to me! Be yahoo serious por favor!