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SpongeBob SquarePants - Season 1 (I'm ticked off at Paramount)

Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by MarkHastings, Sep 18, 2003.

  1. MarkHastings

    MarkHastings Executive Producer

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    Damn it all [​IMG] - After releasing (and me buying) 7 different DVD's with 10 random episodes on them, Paramount decides on releasing them as season sets [​IMG] [​IMG]

    SpongeBob SquarePants - Season 1

    Why do they keep doing this to us? Why put out these "Best of's" (and 7 to boot) and then decide on a Season Series??? I would have LOVED to start buying these DVD's as series sets, but I've just spent $15.00/each on 7 DVD's and I really don't feel like buying the series sets now.

    Why don't they release the season sets first and THEN come out with "Best of's"? You know the people who would be interested in the season sets are going to buy the "Best of's" (as long as there's no season set out), so why tempt them with 7 "Best of" releases (which you know they'll buy) and then slam them with a Season set????

    Thanks a lot Paramount [​IMG]


    p.s. Look at some of the reviews on Amazons site to seem the same anger that I have about this. There are a few epsiodes in the season 1 set that you can't get on the "Best of's", so in order for me to get it on DVD, I have to buy the damn set now [​IMG]
     
  2. Chet_F

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    "Why do they keep doing this to us? Why put out these "Best of's" (and 7 to boot) and then decide on a Season Series???"

    How else would they decide if they are going to sell? At least that is there thinking. They want to see how well it sells, which at best is archaic and PISSES off the consumer to no end.

    I NEVER buy "best of's" for this specific reason. The studios need to design a better way of "testing the waters" than actually SCREWING OVER the consumer. Or at the very least givr the consumer a bone, 10 rebate, or something when he upgrades. Will that happen......NO. That would mess with their precious little bottom line and you know it's all about the greenbacks.

    CF
     
  3. David Lambert

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    Um, slow down a sec. Noone forced you to buy the best-of discs.

    Now put yourself in Paramount's (or maybe it's Nick's, since Paramount is just distributing it for Nick) position: they have no way of knowing how well this is gonna sell. They put it out. They get sales. So they put out more and get more sales.

    Sales are so darn good, in fact, that someone steps us and says "let's stop gyping the consumers with these best-of releases and finally give them season sets!"

    Now they are villified for stepping up and doing the right thing, however belatedly in your mind.


    Should they just keep on doing the individual releases instead? It doesn't make sense to criticize the studio for doing the right thing!


    I fear that I Love Lucy fans are going to be the same way, and I just don't think it's justified. Bravo to Paramount for making the switch! [​IMG]
     
  4. TonyTone

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    I assume that when you say that you bought "seven" of the Spongebob DVDs, you're including the soon-to-be-released Xmas one, no? Just confused, since only six have actually been released...unless you managed to already get your hands on the Xmas one![​IMG]

    And yeah, Paramount coming out with the Complete 1st Season set is pretty lame on their part...[​IMG]
     
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  6. MarkHastings

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    No offense Dave, but in my opinion if the marketing people involved had to wonder whether or not full season DVD sets of Spongebob Squarepants (arguably the most popular program on Nickelodeon for the last 2 seasons and CERTAINLY the most popular animated childrens show on cable/satellite) would sell, they should be fired.

    By now most of the major studios can say that season sets of popular television programming on DVD is a proven success story. We have The Simpsons, Futurama, Rocky & Bullwinkle & Friends, The Sopranos, Babylon 5, Friends, The Outer Limits, etc., just to name a few. More TV programming is being released in this format every month. I think they have it figured out.

    In the case of Spongebob, I think a decision was made to rush some product to market in the short term because the production lag on the full season set would have meant lost revenue. It's just the way the system seems to work in some cases. As consumers we may not like it, but there isn't a whole lot we can do.
     
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    One or two "best of" collections is testing the waters (i.e. "Married with Children," "Designing Women"); seven smells strongly of forced double-dipping (especially when there's new/different material or episodes on the season set).
     
  10. MarkHastings

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    Come on... This is Paramount we are talking about here... They love over charging and double dipping...

    They didnt do this to test the waters... They did this so people get to double dip and give them more money...

    I agree with the other person... Any marketer who doesnt think a very popular franchise and a number 1 childrens show (which has a large appeal towards teenagers and adults as well) isnt going to sell shouldnt have the marketing job...

    Remember Star Trek??? Didnt they release all barbones, then release a box set with one directors cut and all the others barebones again??? Didnt they do this each time another directors cut came out???

    They are about to do the same thing again with the Friday the 13th series after charging insane barebones disc prices for the last 4 years...

    Isnt this the same company who charges ridiculous $29.95 and $39.95 retail prices for barebones older discs???

    Come on... Paramount loves it...
     
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    I would have loved a Season Set of Married With Children but when they came out with the "best of's" I was PISSED OFF!! It was season sets or nothing at all. Shit I can buy season sets of anything......have you looked at EBAY lately? Sure the quality isn't there but it's better than nothing at all. That's the sad fact of it all. People will purhase an "ebay tv set" regardless of quality because they want the show. I know I almost did. Fortunately someone got off their A$$ and has decided(due to the Best of's) that they would release Season sets.

    And for those that say Best Ofs are the only way. Your dead wrong. I have participated in MANY MANY focus groups. Those focus groups could easily determine the abilty to market these sets. Marketing firms develop a questionaire to get their demographic, i.e. DVD buyers. They then use these people as thier "test waters" rather than USING the fans $$$. Gues which one costs more? There's your answer. And that is why they USE their fans to determine whether DVD SET A will sell.

    Mark I suggest you use the same mentality. BOYCOTT best of's and hope for Season sets down the road.

    CF
     
  15. MarkHastings

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    Uh, I knew this would happen so I didn't buy the "best of" discs. Really... no need to get bent out-of-shape at Paramount, I am sure they saw sales of the single-discs and decided that a full season set would be viable as a product. I am sure there isn't some underlying X-Files conspiracy here [​IMG]
     
  18. Mickey P

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    Paramount is screwing people over plain and simple because they can! I agree with some of the other posters that one or two...maybe three best ofs I could see! (Ive got four myself), but seven, AND THEN COME OUT WITH SEASON SETS!!!! Thats just plain and simple screwing over the customer no matter how you look at it. No one forced us to buy it, thats correct, but after the third and fourth came out I figured this was the way they were going to do it, and no season sets would be forthcoming, so I continued to buy.Most people would come to the same logical conclusion. Even if you think that maybe someday they might come out with a season set, you would never know for sure and if you dont buy these now, you might wind up waiting for 2,3, 4 years,(who knows how long) and maybe never get the season sets! I think Paramount should issue an apoligy to Spongebob fans for pulling this stunt, and offer some kind of refund or savings if we have purchased the other discs.Thast just my opinion and Im sticking to it!!
     
  19. Ryan Wishton

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    Mickey,

    Excellent point!!! You test the waters as they so call it with one or two DVD's (Married with children did this), not 7... [​IMG]

    I can even see doing the Christmas and Halloween discs for the people who only buy and want holiday episodes...

    But, 7 best of's before getting to seasons???

    I can completely understand why people would think that this was the only way to get the episodes after 7 best of DVD's were released...
     
  20. Dome Vongvises

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    If you were to add up all the episodes from the best of series and subtract that from the episodes in a season/seasons, how many actual episodes have actually not made it to DVD?
     

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