Spider-Man: Brand New Day (2026) (1 Viewer)

[Alex...]

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[Sean Bryan]

I trust Pascal a lot more than Tom Rothman.


I really, really, really hope that they don't bring Maguire and Garfield back in this. It worked for No Way Home because it had never been done before and there was a story worth telling. I wouldn't mind seen them pop up again in Secret Wars. But Holland's Spidey deserves his own movie. Just repeating what worked the last time isn't a recipe for long-term success.

The rumors I’ve read have been that Feige wanted to do a smaller, more grounded Spider-Man story. Like Spidey and Daredevil against Kingpin. But Rothman wanted to double down on the multiverse stuff. I thought I read that they’ve reached some sort of in-between compromise, but I don’t really know what the latest rumors are.

For Spider-Man 4, I’d prefer a story with only Holland’s Peter and then for Tobey and Andrew to be involved in Secret Wars. Would be weird if they weren’t brought back for the big multiverse film(s) because that’s exactly what those movies should be. But Spider-Man 4 really should be focused on Peter trying to find his way as Spider-Man on his own. And if there is any type of team-up it should be with someone like Daredevil.

But I believe this movie takes place between Doomsday and Secret Wars. I suspect Doomsday may result in some sort of Universe altering event, so it may actually make more sense for it to involve some multiverse aspects depending on the lead in.

 

[Jake Lipson]

But I believe this movie takes place between Doomsday and Secret Wars. I suspect Doomsday may result in some sort of Universe altering event, so it may actually make more sense for it to involve some multiverse aspects depending on the lead in.

If they want to have a more normal Spider-Man film, they could also take the Ant-Man and the Wasp route. That movie came out after Infinity War but takes place before it and didn't catch up with its events until the mid-credits scene.

 

[Sean Bryan]

If they want to have a more normal Spider-Man film, they could also take the Ant-Man and the Wasp route. That movie came out after Infinity War but takes place before it and didn't catch up with its events until the mid-credits scene.

Yeah, they could do something like that. But I think the difference here is that, from what I’ve heard, Spider-Man is supposed to be a major player in Doomsday while Ant-Man wasn’t even in Infinity War. Doing it as a prequel to could still work fine, but it may not go down as smoothly.

 

[Jake Lipson]

Doing it as a prequel to could still work fine, but it may not go down as smoothly.

My understanding is that the Russos, Markus and McFeely left Ant-Man out of Infinity War specifically because they didn't want to interfere with what Ant-Man and the Wasp was doing. They asked Peyton Reed to leave Scott in the Quantum Realm to set up Endgame, but that's it.

If Peter is going to be in Doomsday, that changes things quite a bit. Making the standalone film a satisfying prequel to Doomsday would be challenging because, in that scenario, we would already know where Peter ends up before he gets there. I'm not sure if I would be a fan of that approach. We'll see.

So far, No Way Home is the only use of the multiverse in Feige's MCU that I have liked. Everything else just hasn't worked for me. I am tired of it. I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I am not looking forward to Doomsday and Secret Wars. I just want this storyline to go away. This is a major reason why I'd rather have a standalone main MCU Spider-Man movie in between those two.

In any case, I expect that the Russos and Destin Daniel Cretton will be in communication with each other. Whatever they do does need to be coordinated to work seamlessly with the other film.

The other factor, of course, is when Tom Holland is actually going to shoot all of the movies he is signed up to make. Doomsday is scheduled to release in May 2026. Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey and the next Spider-Man are currently scheduled on consecutive weekends in July 2026. It sounds like Holland is going to be really busy shooting all three of those this year. While of course I'm sure he will be well-compensated for his time and effort on all of them, I hope he also still has time to sleep at some point too.

 

[Jake Lipson]

Sony has pushed back the release date by a week to July 31, 2026 instead of July 24.

Tom Holland’s ‘Spider-Man 4’ Gets New July 2026 Release, Moves Two Weeks Out From Christopher Nolan’s ‘The Odyssey’

Sony has pushed back the release of the fourth 'Spider-Man' film with Tom Holland, giving it two weeks of space from Christopher Nolan's 'The Odyssey.'

variety.com

This means Spider-Man will now go two weeks after Christopher Nolan's The Odyssey instead of only one week later. Christopher Nolan has cast both Tom Holland and Zendaya in that film as well.

 

[Alex...]

Sadie Sink has joined

‘Stranger Things’ Star Sadie Sink Joins Tom Holland In Next ‘Spider-Man’ Movie

Stranger Things star Sadie Sink is joining Tom Holland in the next installment of the 'Spider-Man' movie franchise.

deadline.com

 

[Sean Bryan]

With Sink having been rumored as possibly being cast as the MCU’s Jean Grey, it would be interesting for the character to first show up here.

Of course there are numerous other characters she could be playing.

 

[Jake Lipson]

MCU’s Jean Grey

If she is playing Jean, that would mean Disney is effectively loaning her out to Sony for this film. Of course, they've done that before with characters like Tony, Happy, "Nick Fury" and Strange, so that wouldn't be unusual. There will probably be at least a couple MCU loans in this film in keeping with the co-production arrangement that Sony and Marvel have.

But it seems to me that they'd probably want to hold off on casting Jean until they're pretty sure of what they're going to be doing in the MCU reboot of the X-Men franchise proper. Because that isn't going to be happening until after Secret Wars, I'd think that introducing Jean now puts more restrictions on them for later.

So I'd guess that the Jean rumors are false and that Sink will be playing someone else. But I've been wrong before, so who knows?

 

[Sean Bryan]

If she is playing Jean, that would mean Disney is effectively loaning her out to Sony for this film. Of course, they've done that before with characters like Tony, Happy, "Nick Fury" and Strange, so that wouldn't be unusual. There will probably be at least a couple MCU loans in this film in keeping with the co-production arrangement that Sony and Marvel have.

But it seems to me that they'd probably want to hold off on casting Jean until they're pretty sure of what they're going to be doing in the MCU reboot of the X-Men franchise proper. Because that isn't going to be happening until after Secret Wars, I'd think that introducing Jean now puts more restrictions on them for later.

So I'd guess that the Jean rumors are false and that Sink will be playing someone else. But I've been wrong before, so who knows?

Yeah, there are many other characters of significance she could be playing like Mary Jane Watson, Gwen Stacey, Felicia Hardy (Black Cat), etc…. She could even be an obscure or new character.

I do like her for Jean Grey though, especially if they intend for the new MCU X-Men to be on the younger side. But googling her recent pictures also shows that she’s grown up plenty since first appearing in Stranger Things.

I don’t want to be spoiled on the specifics of any upcoming movie, but I think most who follow these are somewhat aware that these next two Avengers movies will be leaning heavily into the Multiverse to close that “saga”. With Spider-Man 4 taking place between those two films it’s very likely (as we’ve discussed before) that it will also be some type of multiverse story. I suspect that Doomsday and Secret Wars will feature versions of the X-Men characters from the Fox Universe movies. But if they lean hard into those multiverse elements then it’s possible they may feature more alternate versions of those characters. And some of them may wind up being the versions that stick around for the MCU after Secret Wars. So this may be another of those cases where the Russos have a hand in casting and guiding the first appearances of new characters before their “solo” movies like Spider-Man and Black Panther.

Or they could do something fun like have her be Firestar from the old Spider-Man and his Amazing Friends cartoon.

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

If she's playing a purely Sony Marvel character, the obvious choice would be the famously ginger Mary Jane if Zendaya wasn't already this Peter's MJ. The next most likely candidate would be the Julia Carpenter iteration of Spider-Woman, who has been a redhead in the comics as often as she's been blonde.

The Deadline article makes it sound like Sink is playing the female lead, with Zendaya's presence scaled back due to her numerous other commitments.

The big question is where this fits in chronologically. It's coming out in between Doomsday and Secret Wars, but is it set between those two movies? If it is, her playing Jean Gray makes a lot more sense, especially if the Fantastic Four Earth has mutants in it.

 

[Jake Lipson]

Zendaya's presence scaled back due to her numerous other commitments.

Sony has not yet officially confirmed that Zendaya is in the movie at all. I would be absolutely shocked if she wasn't. We know that Holland said that he and Zendaya read the script together. That could just be because of their personal relationship, but it seems much more likely to me that she is going to be in it.

As you noted, Zendaya is booked and busy. But I think it also works for the story, even if she didn't have other jobs. Because MJ doesn't know who Peter is, she wouldn't be quite as prominent as she was previously. Before the forgetting spell took effect, MJ told Peter that she would just figure it out again if he didn't come tell her. Although I have no idea what their plans are, I think that line was telling us they will eventually pay that off. But in order for their reunion to mean something, it can't be the very first thing that happens in the movie. We have to feel the weight of them being apart in order for the movie to earn their reunion. Otherwise, there would have been no reason to separate them in the first place.

Mary Jane Watson

I think it would be a little too on the nose to have a Mary Jane Watson opposite this Peter because Zendaya is already his MJ. I know her name is Michelle Jones and she "doesn't go by Watson," but still. It would also be particularly torturous for Peter if he fell for another MJ. I know he's not going to have an easy time of it in one of these movies, but that would be particularly rough.

The first two films with Tom Holland went out of their way not to use characters who had already appeared in previous iterations. I really hope that is the case here as well. Because they've already had Gwen with both Maguire and Garfield, plus Hailee Steinfeld's Spider-Verse version, I hope we don't go there again. I'd rather see Black Cat, who hasn't ben explored fully in a film yet. Felicity Jones played Felicia Hardy in The Amazing Spider-Man 2 but as I recall she didn't get very much to do in it and never took on the Black Cat moniker. I assume she was in there to build towards a more significant role in one of the sequels that never happened. So Felecia as Black Cat, whether played by Sadie Sink or someone else, would be a new and different opportunity for the series.

 

[Sam Favate]

The fact that this movie is coming after Doomsday (and before Secret Wars) gives credence to the possibility that Jean Grey could be in it. Obviously, Sadie Sink is a rising star, so if you're booking her for multiple films, you will want to use her. Word is that Marvel wants its first X-Men film out in 2027 or 2028, so introducing the character - a major player in the Marvel Universe - next year would not be out of place. However, if she is going to be a romantic interest for Peter, I doubt it's Jean.

I've also seen suggestions that Marvel wants Mikey Madison for Felicia Hardy (Black Cat) for Spider-Man 4. Sydney Sweeney has also been mentioned for this part. The character was played by Felicity Jones in Amazing Spider-Man 2.

So who knows? It's nice to see there is a lot of activity going on behind the scenes.

That said, I was hoping for a street-level Spider-Man featuring the Kingpin and Daredevil (another rumor).

 

[Joe Wong]

Not familiar with this character, but some Youtubers are throwing her out there as a possibiility for Sadie Sink

Firestar (Marvel Comics) - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

She's a redhead, has powers, and helps Spider-man. But if Spider-man 4 is an important multiverse entry, then Jean may be more useful.

I would love it if Sadie was tapped to play Jean, as I like seeing non-typical team-ups. If they can make it work, that's great (eg. Sam Wilson's, Peter's and T'Challa's intros in the MCU were in other solo films).

 

[Jake Lipson]

I've also seen suggestions that Marvel wants Mikey Madison for Felicia Hardy (Black Cat) for Spider-Man 4.

Mikey Madison has not yet booked another project following Anora. It wouldn't surprise me if Sony/Marvel wants to work with her. But everyone is going to want to work with her now following her Oscar win. So she's going to have a lot of options.

Sydney Sweeney has also been mentioned for this part.

Sydney Sweeney was already in Madame Web. I'm not sure if that would have any impact on this at all. They obviously don't care about Robert Downy Jr. playing multiple roles, unfortunately. Another valid question is whether Sweeney would even want to do another superhero movie after the negative response to that film. She's also busy this year filming Euphoria (with Zendaya) and is going to do a movie with Coleman Domingo after that wraps. So her availability is another factor.

 

[Sam Favate]

I think Sweeney would join a Marvel Studios project. Just about everyone in Hollywood seems to want a Marvel movie, with the notoriety (and presumably, paycheck) that it brings. Obviously, Sony’s projects are not nearly the same. Most of those have been critical and financial failures.

 

[Jake Lipson]

Title reveal from Sony social media.


I don't love the title, but at least they didn't shove the word "Home" in there again.

 

[Adam Lenhardt]

but at least they didn't shove the word "Home" in there again.

This.

 

[Sam Favate]

I’d have to double check, but I seem to recall “Brand New Day” was the title of a much-derided Spider-Man comic storyline (which I admit I never read).

 

[TravisR]

I’d have to double check, but I seem to recall “Brand New Day” was the title of a much-derided Spider-Man comic storyline (which I admit I never read).

It is. To keep it relatively spoiler free, Brand New Day was the first storyline where alot of things in Spider-Man's life were 'erased' after Spidey made a deal with Mephisto at the end of the previous arc. I hated the deal with the devil crap but I was already bailing on the series because writer J. Michael Straczynski was leaving after probably 5 years so I never read Brand New Day either. I tend to think that fans hated the changes that basically began in Brand New Day more than the story itself and no writer or story could have overcome the very negative reaction to the changes that Marvel handed the new creative team.

 

[Chip_HT]

Most of the people who dislike BND are the internet fans that hate everything. I remember at the time, I hated the new status quo, but once I gave it a chance, it wasn't bad at all. The bigger issues are with "One More Day", which was the arc that immediately preceded BND. Just poor conception and poor execution.

I wouldn't be surprised if "Day" is the keyword of this Spidey trilogy.