Speaker wire questions

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  1. Jared_C

    Jared_C Stunt Coordinator

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    I want to know what is the best gauge wire to use with bookshelf and tower speakers. I have wharfedale, so they're biwireable, should i run smaller wire to the high frequncy and larger gauge to the low frequency speaker? What gauges do you reccomend, 100watts/speaker. Does brand matter?
     
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    Hi Jared.
    The real physics involved cause a roll-off of the higher frequency sounds for a LONG run. This is why many speaker sites recommend the following gauge depending upon run length:
    1-10 ft: 16 ga
    11-20 ft: 14 ga
    21+ ft: 12 ga
    Since it's a high-frequency roll-off we are trying to solve this means:
    thicker wire to the tweeters
    thiner wire to the midrange/woofers.
     
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    thanks bob for the detailed explanation. do you think it is worth spending the extra $$ to biwire my wharfedale 8.3 bookshelf's which will be furthest from the receiver and require larger gauge wire? i am using a sony str-de845 receiver (100x5), doldy, dts, etc.
     
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    Thicker wires to the tweeters? I would offer up the opposite thinking. Woofers are bigger so they get thicker wires[​IMG] Well I am serious about what i say, but am rushing off sometplac, so the argument will have to be taken up by another. But suffice it to say that power consumption is greater with the larger drivers so it would make sense, at least to me that you wold not want to starve them. 12gauge seems to be be the disired wire if you are running straight monster style twisted cable, Once you get into esoteric wiring it ain't so simple.
     
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    Ok, i found a 100ft role of biwire cable in 14gauge at partexpress for about $30. I am assuming four wires of 14gauge to any of my speakers at 20 feet or less should be ample. anyone care to comment? thanks
     
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    Jared,

    Just for fun (and in the joy of experimentation) I'd jump on that biwire cable you found. Then when it arrives, first hook everything up using a single run, listen for several days, then hook up the second or biwire run. Listen for several days. Now go back to the single run--and see if you notice a difference.

    I'd love to hear the result of your test.

    The cable you've found isn't all that expensive, so why not get it, be done with cable shopping, experiment a little hooking things up, and enjoy the music?
     
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    a rather simple way of determining if biwiring results in any audible differences as opposed to the the same run not biwired can be found at the bottom of the following thread. at the very least, using two runs of 14 gauge gives you an equivalent 11 gauge wire.
     
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    thanks for the responses. i think i will give mikes idea a try, biwire and and single run. Too bad the wire is out of stock until the 24th at partsexpress
     
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    Bob says,
     
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    thanks for the great reply brucek. I plan on using this cable for my ht click here , 4 14gauge wires to each speaker, probably biwired, can't hurt. any closing comments?
     
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    I am about to go out and buy some speaker wire today, i have very limited funds so should i spend the extra $$ to get 100ft of 12 gauge or stick with my intentions of getting 100ft of 14gauge($26) for about $10 cheaper. I will be running 100wx5 to wharfedale diamond speakers, rated 100w rms. I believe 14gauge will be ample, the main speakers will be about 10ft apart, the center 5ft from receiver, and the rears 20ft at most. What do you guys suggest? please reply asap, thanks
     
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    Jared,

    14 will be fine but you'll always be wondering - "What if I had bought the 12"? Bottom line - get the 12 and enjoy your system - $10 is cheap for a lifetime of no regrets.

    Austin


     

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