speaker settings for receiver

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  1. Joe*J

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    I hope this is the right place to ask these questions.
    I have a Yamaha RX V3000 receiver. Definitive Technology BP 2004 TL main speakers. These speakers have built in powered subwoofers. Def Tech C/L/R 2002 center speaker. The 2004 speakers are hooked up using speaker level and line level (LFE using Y adapter going into each main)
    Ok now for the confusion: How should the speaker setting be set?
    Mains- LARGE or SMALL
    Subwoofer- SUB or MAIN or BOTH

    I don't really understand what the BOTH setting does but its there. I have asked these questions in other forums but I never got a clear answer. Maybe someone out there has these same speakers with a Yamaha receiver and they could give there settings.
    Also the Def Techs are rated at 4-8 ohms, the manual says to use the 4 ohm setting. The confusion here is that some people tell me to use 4 others say to use 8. Does anyone know for sure which is better.
     
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    Still looking for answers, maybe someone has a similar set up.
     
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    If It were my system I'd set the sub at main and the mains at large (assuming your speakers pretty good at producing bass, I haven't heard them). I've never heard of that main/both setting but I would assume that the both setting is for people who don't use a sub and want to redirect their .1 bass to the mains.
     
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    The "sub - both" setting tells the receiver to send the LFE audio to both the sub AND the front speakers (if they're set ot large). I think you will need to experiment with setting your front speakers to large then try it with them set to small and make your own decision. I myself use 15" three-way JBL's that handle deep bass very well so I have them set to large but it will be up to you to decide if your speakers can handle the lowest bass well.
     
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    yammy is rated at 100 watts/channel

    set to 8 ohms
    speakers set to small
    lfe set to sub

    get a bigger power amp....different story
     
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    Cliff,

    This makes my head ache, trying to rethink bass management back to the fundamentals coupled w/ Yamaha BOTH.

    Gonna ponder it, especially in light of this very post this very day by "Secrets" editor Brian Florian at avsforum:
     
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    Bill,

    Yes, Brian is absolutely correct. The bottom line for me is that most "bass management" schemes are compromises in one way or another, even the highly touted "use a sub and set all speakers to small". (I say this because, with the typical crossover frequencies of 80-90 Hz, the listener is deprived of directional cues in the 60 Hz region of the audio spectrum that would otherwise be provided by 5 full-range speakers of a 5.1 system, assuming that the listener can perceive directionality at 60 Hz, which I believe I can.)

    So compromise is the order of the day, except for those with truly full-range speakers in all 5 positions. If you accept this, then the only other issue is what compromise do you (or anyone) prefer? Doubling up bass from the mains by directing a copy of it to the subwoofer? Calibrating your sub to run "hot" by a few dB? I would not fault any of these solutions, or a combination of them, as long as the system is calibrated and equalized (for sub) using the intended playback arrangement.

    Cliff
     

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