Sound King Speaker Wire

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  1. Steve Gazi

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    My two cents...

    Definitely! I just bought a roll for my own and am using it to bi-wire my mains and upgrade from super-thin wire for my surrounds. The price is very good, and if you order from Parts Express, you can pick up a set of banana plugs to go along with them at a decent price.
     
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    What is bi-wiring? I know that probably sounds silly.
     
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    Steve,

    Yes this certainly IS suitable for wiring your main speakers.

    Infact Sound King's 12awg speaker cable is the best deal

    for a 12awg cable your going to find. Compare it to Radio

    Shack's 12Awg MegaCable and Monster Cable's 12awg version

    which both sell for $1.00+ per foot and you will see no

    diffrence in construction. The Sound King 12awg is a 99.999%

    Pure OFC 300 strand count rope braided conductor that is

    more than enough for any system.

    Bi-Wiring is a process where you run 2 sets of speaker cables

    to each speaker (The Spekers must be set up for Bi-Wiring)

    you connect the speaker wires to the 4 terminals on the

    back of the speaker (Low Frequency and Mid/High Frequency)

    and then you connect both pairs to to one terminal on the

    Amp or Receiver. The therory is that Bi-Wiring gives better

    definition and seperation of the Lows and Highs, Though it

    would be difficult to prove, it was cheap enough for me to

    do with the Sound King wire thus I did it.. Sounds great to

    me, then again it sounded great with just one set of Sound

    King wires going to each tower.
     
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    Ah, I see. Is this really neccessary to make it sound good? I just want to wire them up normally. BTW, are there any recommended ways for mounting wire? Mine are all going to be going up along the top of the wall. It might not be fancy, but it will be effective. [​IMG]
    Steve
     
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    Steve,
    neccessary? very debateable.. It's cheap enough to do with
    the Sound King wire that I chose to go that way.. Did I
    notice better sound? The sound doesn't seem to be better
    per se.. The Imaging sounds a little more defined though.
    It's up to you [​IMG]
    As for wire mounting.. I run my main's wires along the floor
    and my surround wires run from the receiver along the wall
    then up the corner of the room into the attic and then along
    the attic and back down through the celing. I used Radio
    Shack UL Listed CL2 In Wall 16Awg for the surround.
    Here's a picture of the "instalation"
    [​IMG]
     
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    Can I wire all of my speakers with the 12ga?
     
  8. Nick G

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    Steve, 12G all around is just fine. In fact there is nothing you can do to improve on it. Here is informative link for speaker wire info if you want to know more, otherwise just wire em up with the 12G and enjoy the music.
    Regards, Nick
    http://www.sundial.net/~rogerr/wire.htm
     
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    Steve,

    Just one clarification on Nick's recommendation of 12awg

    all around.. 12awg is best for all around use BUT if you

    are going to install ANY wire inside the walls like I did

    you MUST use CL2 or CL3 (depends on local building codes)

    if you don't use UL listed in wall wire and there is a fire

    your insurance could be voided due to the instalation of non

    spec wire.

    I couldn't find 12awg CL2 when I was shopping for wire and

    I went with RS 16awg and it works flawlessly. My runs to

    the rear are roughly 32' of wire.
     
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    All of my wiring is going to be done on the outside of the wall. I'm just going to run it along the ceiling. I'm not going for looks right now. I just need to hear my movies the way they should be heard. [​IMG]
     
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    Steve -
    Not sure if you saw my thread on KnuKonceptz.com speaker cables. I too am looking at new speaker cables. Check out this link - price is not as good as Sound King, but MAY be slightly better quality. Don't know, no one out there seems to know much about knukonceptz speaker cables...
    For what it is worth, I live in the Mars area and work near Robinson (Rt 60)...
    Cable Link
    -mbs
     
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    Partsexpress is 600C. 30.00

    NuConcepts is 588C. 0.50 (lol)

    Both 12 gauge copper.

    The difference is what?
     
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    Adil,
    The diffrence is that the SoundKing is the sound way to go!
    $30.00 for 100' can't be beat [​IMG]
     
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    Brett, good point about fire, insurance and meeting code with wiring in the walls. I never really thought about that particular situation.

    Nick
     
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    Ok, so it looks like SOund King is the way to go for inexpensive 12-gauge speaker wire.
    HOWEVER, I was hoping to get WHITE wire, so as to blend in with the our living room's wall color a little nicer. (my wife was nice enough to let me buy my home theater toys, so i'm trying to be nice in return [​IMG] )
    So, if I want WHITE wire:
    1. Can I find any 12-gauge?
    2. Can I paint the Sound King stuff? (ugh)
    3. Do I have to settle for smaller white wire, like Monster's XPMS (comes in Navajo White)Pic of Monster XPMS Navajo White @ Crutchfield
    Help! What do I do? Anybody???
    -Bill
    p.s. does anybody have ANY idea what gauge the Monster XPMS is? I have not been able to find that answer anywhere.
     
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    anyone? any advice/comments on my question(s) immediately above? thanks. -Bill
     
  17. Brett DiMichele

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    William,

    I am going to say no, you can't paint the sound king wire

    and it's not available in Navaho White as far as I know.

    I used Radio Shack Navaho White for my surrounds but the

    thickest I could find was 16awg. 16awg would be thick enough

    but I prefer to use 12awg for the mains, you know you have

    more than enough headroom with the 12awg.

    And I think that Monster Cable wire you are refering to is

    fairly lightweight awg wise.. Like lighter than 16awg..
     
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    William,

    I would do a search in this forum for a thread that was around a couple of weeks ago. It talked about making your own wire. In the thread, it contained information about making a cover or sheilding for your wire, and if I recall correctly, there were several colors. You could go with the soundking wire, then add your own cover for cosmetics. Anybody feel free to correct me if I am mistaken.

    Brandon
     
  19. Brett DiMichele

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    Brandon,
    You could encase the wire in PTFE Teflon which would be
    whiteish in color (not Navaho though) or you could encase
    the wire in expandable nylon braid which can also be had in
    a whiteish color. Other than that, I don't know of any other
    white tubing you can use.
    Rajee,
    I run 4 12awg conductors of the same exact length (they must
    be the same length) and then I just used Radio Shack Banana
    Terminals and I managed to get 2 12 awg conductors into each
    Banana Terminal.. It wasn't easy but I did do it [​IMG]
    I am making a new set of Bi Wires and selling this pair for
    a very reasonable price of $40.00 (for nearly 2 15' runs)
    And this next pair I am making are going to cost me a fortune
    a small fortune to make. This time around I am going to use
    WBT Midline Spades and Banana's and I am going to try a
    diffrent cable design just for the hell of it.. [​IMG]
    I will wind up with close to $300.00 into the next pair and
    most of that cost will be in the WBT Connectors ($80.00 per
    4)
     
  20. Brett DiMichele

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    Rajee,
    You could always buy my pre made Bi-Wires for $40.00
    (Your going to have at least 60 into materials if not more)
    Here's what they look like..
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    [​IMG]
    If you still want to make your own (hey it's fun) I used
    Radioshack's nikel silver crimp banana's ($0.58 cents each
    and only available at www.radioshack.com) or you can go with
    the standard gold versions. At any rate, I did NOT crimp the
    connectors, they were silver soldered (IMHO the only way to
    go)
    Or you could also check into connectors at www.partsexpress.com
     

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