Did everyone notice the twin towers were no longer in the main title sequence?
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It has been known for a while that they were taking them out.....Actually, I heard on one of the entertainment shows (EW??) that they were still deciding up until a week or two ago whether they would leave them in or not. Obviously they could be wrong, though.
Wow, Jack. I remember saying to my wife when that scene showed up, "that is such an obvious 'Photoshop' type effect covering up the actual stores". Are the signs actually in that ugly green color?It's a standard ugly Jersey mini-strip-mall. :b I actually was at the bank this morning and walked around to take a look. They had moved the restaurant sign over to the right to get it in the shot, but that's the way they look. That was a real Hooters, also, that Tony and Christopher were parked across the street from. Don't ask. I couldn't place that diner, though.
I was also wondering about the timeline. When season 3 ended, it was end of winter/beginning of spring. There were a couple of things that gave away the timeline:
- Meadow needing to go online with Carm and register for classes means, I would guess, it's getting close to Fall semester. Then she said she would miss dinner because of a 'back-to-school' party. And in the preview for next week they say Meadow might take a year off and go abroad instead.
- AJ's school only being 5-days old. (Whatever school he's at)
- The bird seed being bought in the 'wrong season' according to Carm and the sales guy. (Meaning late summer/early fall)
So.... my guess is the timeline is last night's episode was last September '01. Season 3 ended Feb/March 2001, and now we jumped ahead 6 months. Meadow is about to be a Sophomore at Columbia, and AJ is a Sophomre in high school.
As for Danielle, it is very shoddy with the plotline. Either Adrianna knows she had a baby, or she was an extremely fit pregnant woman.
As for 9/11, the show would be taking place right around when it would've happened, but I'm sure the writers didn't want to get involved too much. A simple reference by Tony was probably all they wanted to do to acknowledge it.I agree with all of this except for the baby part.
There's more evidence in the last few episodes of Season 3 to indicate that it ended in the middle of winter or early spring. Consider the snow in the Pine Barrens episode. And when Jackie Jr. was shot, he went down in a small patch of snow. There were references to the Superbowl and its associated gambling; I recall from having recently viewed Season 3 on DVD that Sylvio was arrested at Jackie Jr's funeral service and he said something like "they do this every year at Superbowl time for the publicity". So we're talking about February 2001.
Season 4 seems to have begun within a few weeks after September 11, 2001. This means it's been just six months between seasons.
I think this is plenty of time for Agent Debbie ("Danielle") to have become chummy with Adriana. A couple of "chance" meetings at the mall (the first of which we saw in Season 3, indeed we saw it with Fairuza Balk playing that part) and some falsified "common interests" (starting with fashion, as we saw) would be all it takes.
Is it possible that Debbie's baby is more than six months old? She may have already had the baby at the time she was assigned to become Adriana's "new best friend". But I'm no good at judging a baby's age.
Most importantly, the New York boss is not happy with Tony Soprano, commenting on his dress code.... This is for sure to be the first of many problems coming from the NY Family.Was he talking about Tony's clothes? I thought he was warning Tony that the guy who is moving in on tony's area "doesn't wear shorts," implying that when he was at the Bar B Q, he was doing it for the purposes of checking things out for an eventual takeover. Maybe I'm wrong, it's been so long since season 3 and I don't remember all the minor characters
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I have a feeling Christopher might feel some heat for the cop killing. He tried to cover it up, but his prints have to be somewhere. On the gun, the coffee table, the TV... he touched so muchHe wiped the gun down pretty good but he left a whole ashtray of cigarette butts. If it was a real crime they'd get his DNA off of the butts and he'd be in jail. I'm sure that he left some prints somewhere in the house also. I don't think that anything further will come from this though.
I just saw the "A don doesn't wear shorts" scene again, and I'm still not sure how to interpret that line.That line made me laugh because I assumed it was mainly an in-joke: I remember on the commentary track for the pilot episode David Chase saying he made a mistake for Tony to wear shorts because mafia consultants later told him that a mob boss would NEVER wear shorts.
That line seemed like a great way to comment on the producer's early mistake and also use it as a character defect for Tony.