Sonys 4ES vs Pioneer Elite VSX-43TX

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  1. Harold A

    Harold A Stunt Coordinator

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    I am in the market for a new reciver and considering both of these. I can pick them up for pretty close to the same price. What do people think?

    Here is what I have gathered:
    Sony has 2 multichannel inputs, the Pioneer 1
    Sony DTS 96/24 decoding, Pioneer ?
    Pioneer THX certification, Sony none
    Pionner Auto Calibration, Sony ??

    THe remote is not an issues since I will use my Pronto.

    What are people opinions of both?
     
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    Sony has 2 multichannel inputs, the Pioneer 1 Do you need 1 or 2?
    Sony DTS 96/24 decoding, Pioneer ? Pioneer probably does also
    Pioneer THX certification, Sony none THX doesn't really matter IMHO
    Pionner Auto Calibration, Sony ?? Nice feature but, typically you install the system and calibrate once
    The real questions that are important include:
    Which one sounds better to you?
    Which one looks better to you?
    Which feature set works better for you?
    Which one has the has the best warranty?
    Which one is the best value for your dollars?
    IMHO, they are both good machines so, you really can't go wrong either way. In the end you have to decide for yourself what is important. It may even come down to which name you like better![​IMG]
     
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    I believe the 43TX does not have the autocalibration. The 45TX does but not the 43TX.

    I think either unit is good for the price. Online the Sony can be had for around $600 and the Pioneer for around $900. Try and demo both of them and find out if the price difference and features are worth it to you.
     
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    Remember the Sony does not have a learning remote.
     
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    That's what pronto's are for. I've never seen an ad in learning remote that was really worth it. You can pick up a pronto online for 180$
     
  7. Harold A

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    In my original post I Stated that the remote is not an issue I already have a Pronto.
     
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    Harold:

    Have you demoed the units side-by-side? I think AudioAdvice in Raleigh carries both the ES and Elite lines.

    I've heard the 4ES, and it's very impressive.

    --AM
     
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    Oh Shoot! I didn't realize that the 4ES provides only 96/24 DACs for multichannel mode. I was just beginning to embrace this unit [​IMG]. Then again, 96/24 DACs are fine for movie mode. For multichannel music mode, most players have 24/192 DACs and the Sony provides full analog bypass. Ok, I'm warming up to this unit again. [​IMG]
     
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    I think the Sony also automatically shuts down all video during 2 channel direct playback. This is a great feature and should put the Sony as close to seperate performance as a receiver can get. Not familiar with the Pioneer. Doe's the Pioneer do this also.? If so, the choice between them becomes harder. From the positive responses of owners of both, it appears either would be a good choice. If possible ,and as others have already stated, check both side by side before purchase.
     
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    Does either the Sony or Pioneer provide bass management for stereo? I can't see the point of crossing over my satellites at 60Hz for multichannel surround but have them take the full bandwidth with no sub out in stereo.
     
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    Colin- I don't own this Sony but if it's the same as in the past, there are two 2ch modes. Analog direct and I think 2 channel stereo. In 2 channel stereo, all DSP soundfields eq's and bass mgt are available. This format would not be applicable to SACD ,DVD-a or DAD.
     
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