Sony to release two ES integrated SACD/DVD receivers.

KeithH

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I read about this on Audio Asylum. Sony issued a press release at the Home Entertainment show in New York City today stating its intention to release two ES integrated SACD/DVD receivers. Both will offer multi-channel SACD playback and progressive-scan DVD playback. The AVD-C70ES ($1000) will offer a five-disc changer and a power output of 120W x 5. The AVD-S50ES ($800) will offer a single-disc player and a power output of 100W x 5.
I found the following portion of the press release particularly interesting:
Audio Performance Enhanced by S-Master™ Process
Both of the new receivers provide multichannel SACD playback by employing a new, digital amplifier that directly accepts the 1-bit converter output for optimal performance.
In addition, a proprietary S-Master process helps reduce the effects of low frequency jitter. Utilizing state-of-the-art technology, a clean data cycle is regenerated and the result is equivalent to the A/D converted signal processed in the studio.
A precision pulse height volume control is also used to maintain audio data in the digital domain for more uniform sound reproduction and at any volume level settings.
Sounds good to me!
Here is a link to the post on Audio Asylum where this press release is being discussed:
http://www.audioasylum.com/scripts/t.pl?f=hirez&m=76474
 

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What do you make of this Keith? I was due to get the 555es (finally) on June 15th, but am now uncertain. What I don't like is the insertion of DVD video into the equation, as I really didn't need a DVD video player. I wanted a purely musical device for SACD's and CD's. it looks like the 555es is the way to go, and who knows, maybe the 555 price will drop even more due to this announcment.

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KeithH

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Reggie asked:
What do you make of this Keith?
I can make a hat, a broach, a pterodactyl...

Did you ever see Airplane!?

Seriously though, I don't know what to make of this announcement. Conventional wisdom would say that an integrated player, especially one with DVD playback capability, would be inferior to a comparably priced, dedicated SACD player like the 'C555ES (which started out retailing for more than the integrated players). However, the integrated components will supposedly utilize new DAC technology, and we will just have to see what Sony has come up with. Furthermore, there is nothing to say that Sony will not come out with a true replacement for the 'C555ES. That is, Sony could very well come out with new dedicated SACD players. I would expect that to happen. Stay tuned. More news could come out of the Home Entertainment show.
 

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That does sound promising, digital from front to end. Any idea if it will have Bass Management and Time Alignment? This would make a complete solution (well, except for DVD-A
). It would still be better to have a digital out though.
 

KeithH

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Craig, there was mention of bass management, but nothing about time alignment.
 

Rob Roth

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In some ways this is an interesting new market. Linn has, I believe, an integrated player/amp. I'm intrigued by the concept since it drastically reduces cabling cost and has the potential for a cleaner signal. That said, my fear would be the quality of the other components in this 'one box' solution. Also wonder if the receiver portion is up to snuff in the I/O stages and the power amp. Of course there will be concerns about the power supplies shared by so many stages.

But the real good news here is the further evidence of Sony's committment to SACD for the masses. If these products are halfway good they have the potential to drastically reduce the entry costs for new SACD users. If you couple sale of these players with production of Hybrid discs you have the possibility of people listening to SACD without even knowing it!!
 

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I wonder if this means there won't be a follow up product for the STR-DA5ES. If so, too bad.

I would hope that these combo products would also have an additional multi-channel analog input, digital inputs and video input for DVD-Audio/Video players. Did you notice that they have five amplifiers?
 

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Also wonder if the receiver portion is up to snuff in the I/O stages and the power amp. Of course there will be concerns about the power supplies shared by so many stages.
Agreed. The PS issue may be less of concern since the Power Amp is digital rather than analog. I have read that one of the biggest problems with digital amps is the output filtering. They tend to add a lot of distortion in the higher frequencies.
 

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Products like this won't appeal to the more serious minded HT/HiFi fan. These all in one solutions will appeal to those who do not have the time or inclination for a full blown HT/audio setup. The niche here may be relatively small, but since there is no compitition, Sony may do well with these products. This is a product that should compete with the Bose systems and all other simular systems like them. I don't think these products are meant to replace stand-alone components and receivers. I said the niche MAY be small, it could be huge considering how well Bose seems to have thrived with their products. Anyway, nice to see some quality compitition in this segment.
 

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I agree with Jack that this is not a product aimed at HT'philes who already have many $$ in power amps and separates. I also doubt very much that 5.1 provision for DVDA will be included. But still the good news remains; Sony may not be doing all we wish on the software side but they are aggressively pushing SACD into markets.
 

KeithH

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Rob,

I agree with what you said. While these integrated components show Sony's further commitment to SACD, there could very well be compromises both in the receiver and SACD sections.


Jack,

I agree that these integrated components will not likely appeal to the audio- and videophiles out there, but it is interesting to note that these components do carry ES badges (along with ES prices). Perhaps the quality will surprise us.


Ira,

I wouldn't assume that these integrated components will replace the 'DA3ES and 'DA5ES. As I said in reply to Reggie's post, I doubt they will replace dedicated SACD players like the 'C222ES and 'C555ES either. My hope is that Sony is just pushing the envelope in some ways with the integrated components while offering a new level of convenience. Hopefully Sony realizes the demand for dedicated components.
 

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