Sony sues Apex.

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  1. Kevin Coleman

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    I can't say I blame them. They only wanted royalties of about 5 dollars per player.
    This shows why we will never see FMD HDVD discs. Because then the royalties will go to 3CD and not the DVD consortium.
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  2. Jeff Kleist

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    I've been predicting this for months
    Believe me, the DVD consortium WILL be next demanding their fees. And then bye-bye Apex, because for the same price people can get a well made player [​IMG]
    Jeff "Only have an Apex because it's region free/Pal converting and getting a Malata soon to replace hunk of #@$#@" Kleist
     
  3. Jack Kelsey

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    I don't get it. These fees are only a few dollars. Why are they refusing to pay? The retail price wouldn't be going up all that much to put them off the market.

    Isn't a really rather a question of not knowing HOW to make a good player?
     
  4. Philip Hamm

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    Let's see.... $5 per player - you sell 100,000 players.... It adds up.
     
  5. Jack Kelsey

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    Sure - but $5 adds up - but so far the numbers have been $£00 for the 7701 universal Apex (DVDA and SACD) vs. having to buy 2 different players to get DVDA and SACD - coming to $600 or more.

    Of course, Apex is only alive because of the $100 players - and their $100 competition is probably also facing lawsuits.

    Just don't know - was just kind of thinking out loud that $5 shouldn't be a 'put you out of business' amount.

    (And, as most everyone knows, the 7701 has been a total tech flop)
     
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    You are correct to a point, but I remember hearing that Ford changed out their lousy speakers for totally and completely trash speakers for something like $0.05. Would anyone object to paying an extra $0.05 on a $25,000.00 car? The manufacturers seem to miss this and just look at the $$$ they can pocket. Also remember there are thousands of small things they could upgrade, but if they did the consumer would have to pay many times the price for the product as they do add up. They have to choose what to improve and what not to, they just don't always make the choice we would.
     
  7. Jack Kelsey

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    Agreed! Just think how much 'plus' would happen if even restaurants would put a few more cents or tens of cents into the raw material costs instead of spending the same money on advertising?

    Maybe this Andersen/Enron circus will get people to realize how much they are 'manipulated.'

    Much will be won if the idea of bragging to your neighbor what a great 'QUALITY' product you got by studying the issue - rather than thinking just saying you paid a 'whopper' sum for something earned you 'bonus' points.

    BRING BACK BRAIN POWER!
     
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  9. Jack Kelsey

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    The referral to Enron/Andersen just meant how people are rather easily bamboozled and that supposedly corporations with good reputations (and even ASSIGNED to have such - eg AA) have no qualms about bamboozling.

    It is only a technicality whether it is unethical and/or illegal.

    Scrimping on prices for components on products that are sold for more than 'good' money is definitely bamboozling.
     
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    Bamboozled: How a $4K item in Japan becomes a $10K item here in the States.

    Whether it is shipping, tariffs, or taxes, someone is screwing us.

    Planned obsolescence, disposable durables, and typical use are further examples of being bamboozled - along with many employee stock purchase programs (had to tie into the Enron issue although they are the sacrificial lamb for the many companies who are guilty of the exact same deceptive practices).
     
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    4/11 ... Dow Jones News -- "Sony Drops Lawsuit: U.S. Apex Agrees To Pay DVD Royalties"

    Sony drops lawsuit against Apex Digital after Apex agreed to pay DVD player royalties. Sony's lawsuit claims that Apex "imports and sells cheap DVD players into the U.S. without paying the required licensing fees." Sony's resolution with Apex could reportedly "affect similar disputes between some hundreds of Chinese DVD manufacturers with another six-company group" that includes MEI, AOL Time Warner and Hitachi.
     

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