I just had to post this. I have a Denon 3801, so I'm used to relatively high-quality receivers. I have rarely been this excited about a new product, even as a salesperson. We don't carry the 4ES, but one of my friends at the store special ordered it. Oh. my. God. Sony really hasn't overlooked ANYTHING of importance in this product. I haven't had the chance to listen to the piece with good speakers, but simply judging by the apparent quality and weight of the unit (slightly heavier than the aforementioned 3801), as well as by the size of the power supply, it shouldn't disappoint in this area. What I'm the most impressed with, however, is the thought that went into every little detail of the piece. I mean, the remote is awesome, you get a 3D view of the room so as to get a visual representations of what your settings mean (i.e. high, low, side, behind settings for surround, etc.), the remote has manufacturers' codes pre-entered so you just have to scrool through the list of manufacturers to select what DVD it will operate, I mean this really is a piece of work. Must be seen to be believed, I encourage ANYONE who has the chance to check it out, I would get it over a 3802 in a heartbeat after what I've seen. My only gripe with the unit so far: no reference level set at 0. 0 is simply maximum level, therefore reference level, depending on calibration, might be something like -20. The volume also does not appear during regular play, only if you turn it up/down.