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Nestor_Ramos

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Keith,

I understand your position, and as it has been repeated ad infinitum (mine has as well), there's not really much point arguing about it. To my mind and ears, the differences in sound "quality" between two similarly constructed AV Receivers run in analog direct mode will be small enough that they should not impact a buying decision. This is my opinion, but then, my advice was solicited. I do believe that amps and power supplies and whatnot can impact the sound of a system, but in the case of mass-market A/V Receivers of reasonable quality, I don't think it's realistic. Frankly, I wish this were not the case, and only years of experience with a multitude of such products have led me to this conclusion.

My "assumption" (your word, not mine) about the 5ES was based on the fact that it is about as similar as can be to the 3ES, which to me sounded the same as the 3802 in Analog Direct mode. Note that I don't really consider this much of a leap.

Once again, I understand what you are saying, and if your experience has led you to different conclusions, well, great! We'll just have to agree to disagree, I think. Generally I feel that the sonic differences between these types of components are real but overstated, probably by necessity of language, if you know what I mean.

Nestor
 

KeithH

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Nestor, your point is fair. We all have different experiences and different interpretations on these matters. My post was not to be taken as argumentative. Just a different viewpoint.
 

KeithH

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Earl, thanks for the link. Etronics' price is better than Oade Bros. ($985), but etronics isn't an authorized dealer. I have read good things about them on this site, but they still aren't authorized.
 

Earl Simpson

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Sony is not like Denon! They are sold everywhere in the world by everyone. And as long as it is a factory new sealed unit with original serial number/don't worry!
The only units listed at etronics as not authorized are Denon and Yamaha. All the others they are an authorized dealer to sell the products with a full factory warranty=because Sony has "zero" as in "00000" restrictions on internet sales.
But use that price as a negotiating tool and get it at OADES anyway=good company!!!;)
 

KeithH

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Earl, Sony actually does list authorized Internet and mail-order dealers on its web site. Etronics isn't one of them. Now, I am not saying that Sony will not honor the warranty on an item purchased from Etronics. My Sony MDS-JA555ES minidisc deck that is in for repair under the warranty was purchased from Sound Pros (www.soundpros.com), which is not an authorized Sony ES dealer. Sony never questioned my Sound Pros receipt. However, I feel better dealing with authorized dealers such as J&R and Oade Bros. whenever possible because I know where the merchandise is coming from and because these dealers have a good reputation. I bought the 'JA555ES from Sound Pros because no one else had it.
 

Earl Simpson

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I found the link but it is not complete!!! 6th ave is an authorized dealer and so is OADES/but not on the list. This list is a very small fraction of the dealers!
http://www.sel.sony.com/cgi-bin/SEL/...gi/aid_list.pl
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Sony authorized dealers are required to take steps to insure the integrity of your Sony purchase. Some unauthorized dealers have sold products with altered or obliterated serial numbers. Products with tampered serial numbers void the Sony Products Warranty. In addition, there have been reports of unauthorized dealers selling used products as new.
We have have not audited unauthorized e-tailers or other unauthorized dealers to determine if they meet the high customer service standards our authorized dealers are required to meet. As we generally have no relationship with unauthorized e-tailers, if you experience any difficulty with their service, we may be unable to help you.
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Ok/ This says they may not be able to help you with a problem with an authorized dealer. Nothing is said about not honoring the warranty service. They will honor your warranty, it's the law! Same info for used/serial number changed stuff! Common sense! The big e-tailers do not do this kind of stuff/it's shooting yourself in the foot as a business.
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