So I've been in the market for some new speakers. I've primarily been examining floor standing speakers under $3500. So far, I've auditioned B&W N804 & 803 Dali Kef JMLab Cobalt 826 Vienna Acoustics Beethoven Joseph Audio rm22 & rm25 Thiel 1.6 & 2.4 (may have model number wrong, but the 1 series and 2 series) Devore (I think that's the name) Boston Acoustics ($2000/pair...maybe 800 series?) My present system consists of a $150 a pair BIC bookshelves with a SVS 25-31 PC+. This is driven by a HK AVR-230. My plan is to add a separate amp at somewhere around 200 watts/channel. My apartment is a relatively large loft so I want to make sure that whatever I buy can fill up the space (but I also want to keep in mind that a large apartment may not always be the norm living in NYC). So far, my initial reactions have me really favoring the Joseph Audio RM25si. This happened to be the first speaker I heard yesterday and it just seemed that nothing else that I listened to the entire rest of the day could really compete. The Josephs just seemed to have an amazing degree of clarity and definition that all the others lacked. Part of this observation could be due to the listening environment. The Joseph dealer in NYC has a really amazing setup for speaker auditions and it was a great environment to sit in and audition the two Josephs. I thought the Dali's were a dissapointment. For $3900/pair (I forget the model #), the speakers sounded almost muddy and had very poor imaging (IMHO, of course). This was done in an auditioning room that didn't seem too poorly designed either, so I was really not impressed. The Kef's were so/so, & matched up well to the Dalis even though they were somewhere around $1000 cheaper. Sound by Singer in NYC is a pretty high-end shop, and I was worried at first about the level of pretentiousness that I might encounter from the sales people. I was relieved on that front as the person helping me was more than generous in giving me plenty of time & options for evaluating speakers. My only gripe is that a few of the auditioning rooms were quite small, and I wonder if trying to measure something like the Josephs (in a better space) to some of the things I heard at Singer was a fair comparison. That being said, the Thiel 1 series was uninspiring, and I thought that the Devore (not something I had heard of before) matched up well for a similar price. The JMLab Cobalts held there own and I thought they seemed like a very musical speaker (for whatever that means). Next I heard the Thiel 2 series in what was a pretty good listening room (so I was prepared to be impressed). That being said, the Thiels didn't leave much of an impression with me (which makes me feel a little better about liking the Josephs, as hopefully they were both given an equal opportunity to shine. This morning I went out and heard the Vienna Acoustics Beethovens. Supposedly they are being discontinued and the store had a demo pair marked down to $3000. These speakers were pretty impressive. The imaging was quite good and the highs were smooth. Compaired to the Boston Acoustics, you could easily tell what the extra $1000 got you with the Viennas. On the B&W N804s, I need to give these another listen. I heard these last week and I feel I need to give them another chance now that I've had the opportunity to listen to several more speakers. What I was able to determine though is that there was no way I could justify to myself the additional cost of the N803s over the N804s as I was just not able to tell anything close to a $1500 difference in sound. So those are some of my observations. I'm curious to hear if anyone has some similar (or different) observations about some of these speakers. I really want to audition some of the Paradigm speakers (studio 100s & S4 come to mind), but unforunately the only Signature dealer in NYC hasn't set up the S4s in over 2 weeks (baffels me as to why they wouldn't be set up). This sure is a daunting exercise...and who knows what the difference will be when I finally get a pair into my apartment.