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Soap operas

Discussion in 'TV on DVD and Blu-ray' started by tlc38tlc38, Feb 8, 2018.

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    Another thing about Another World is that Bill Wolff would say "Wardrobe by Orbach's" before he says "Now stay tuned for "You Don't Say," starring Tom Kennedy, next on NBC." But on The Doctors, the wardrobe credit is on the screen.
     
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    It amazes me that The Dating Game starring Jim Lange(which was a Chuck Barris production) survives, but not GH. And if i remember, those 2 shows ran back to back from 1968 to 1973.
     
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    They literally saw no value in those tapes. They wouldn't rerun them, they wouldn't syndicate them. The only reason Dark Shadows survives is because Dan Curtis wanted them. I don't guess that he imagined they'd ever be rerun (at first) but he wanted them kept.
     
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    Nearly the entirety of the ABC daytime run of The Dating Game WAS wiped. A handful of shows exist but the bulk of surviving ABC episodes are from the weekly nighttime version.
     
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    Actually, Dan Curtis got his start in television syndication and knew the value of his show - he knew there'd be a future in some form after ABC - it just took a few years after the end of the run on ABC to get them out there due to various factors beyond his control.
     
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    Dark Shadows is a show about the occult, so it has the kind of fan overlap with sci-fi and horror you wouldn't normally get with most soaps. That helped make it viable in syndication.

    SoapNET had plenty of opportunity to run the older episodes of shows that were still on the air before it (and they) ceased to exist altogether, but they opted for same-day reruns instead and reran the shows that were already cancelled.
     
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    SoapNet's scheduling had everybody scratching their heads. What a stupid network, really. They'd offer same-day reruns of modern soaps. Why? For people who'd missed the shows on their own networks? Get a vcr. SoapNet should have been offering great, classic runs of shows that hadn't been seen in 20 years. Get the unemployed actors of those programs a little royalty money, serve the fans who'd never even seen them. SN should have brought a couple of original soaps while they were at it. It wouldn't have been that hard. Other than re-airing Ryan's Hope, it seemed like this network wasted a lot of potential.
     
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    Apparently, P&G didn't want older As the World Turns and Guiding Light episodes competing with the new ones, but they didn't mind letting SN have Another World. Too bad they started at 1987, and anything that existed before that went to that ultra-buggy AOL service along with Texas and whatever was left of The Edge of Night. Even though DVRs existed by this point, along with DVD/VHS combos, the Internet of the 2000s wasn't ready to handle that much material. Today, in the age of the streaming wars, it's a different story, but they don't seem to want to do anything with them other than the small smattering that made it to DVD.

    Screen Gems/CPT/Sony supposedly saved all or most of Days and Y&R yet rarely does anything with the archives they have on them. Yet now I hear Ken Corday wants Sony out of the picture altogether for his show, even taking them to court to accuse them of sabotaging the show with its financial shenanigans; he lost the first round, but it's not over yet. Some of these claims are over contracts that predate Coca-Cola's seven-year affair with the Torch Lady. If NBC and Corday pushed Sony out altogether, would Sony lose the rights to the whole show or just new episodes? The lawsuit mentions the lack of exploitation of the show's history by the studio.

    Of course, they'll probably have to fork over some money to Gloria Loring for that "Friends and Lovers" song if there ever was a DVD compilation of any kind and that era was in it.
     
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    Corday is going to offer the show to NBC for a reduced license fee. And they’ll accomplish that by signing new contracts with the actors at a lower rate.

    At some point, the daytime soaps will come to end, because they won’t be able to keep lowering the budget, even as the audience slips away.
     
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    I try to watch them on occasion, but it's like the lights went out. I tried to watch DOOL the other day, and they had (an aging and drunken) John making the moves on Hope. I got weirded out.
     
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    Even my mom gave up on them after having watched them continuously since the early 1960s.

    Even if you accept the theory of active sabotage, another part of the ratings problem is that cable and streaming dramas doing serialized stories took away daytime’s niche in a way earlier prime time network soaps did not.

    There’s also another problem: the older audience members died and the younger generation didn’t want to take their place.
     

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