The other day I was at my local B&M to audition some Paradigm speakers I was considering (along with some B&W's as well). The guy at the shop asked me what I was going to be driving the speakers with. I told him that for the time being I was using a middle of the road Harman Kardon receiver, but was upgrading to separates in 2002. Seeing as I am putting together the best possible "budget" separates system I can for about 5K, I was considering the Odyssey Amp or the Outlaw 750 (or 770), probably in combination with the Outlaw 950 Pre/Pro. The guy looked at me like I had 3 eyes. (never tell a B&M guy you are considering an on-line company). He told me that instead of the Outlaw, I should consider a Rotel receiver instead to drive the dimes. Rotel is a great name, but I don't want another reciever. My question is this. Can't the B&M guy take my business on the speakers and just deal with the fact he's not going to get all my business for the entire system? He had to knock the Outlaw as crap. Now, I know I can't afford Classe' or Krell or such, but the outlaw gets great marks both here and at Audioreview.com. I do get a full refund if I don't like the sound, so why not give them a shot and see what they are made of? I think my system will sound pretty damn good when I'm done until I can afford a Classe' or something of similar ilk. Why is there such a snob factor amongst audiophiles if you either don't go with what they suggest or if you decide to do the on-line thing?. I let my ears do the listening and decide for myself what good value is. Doesn't anyone realize the law of diminishing returns is in effect and you don't have to knock someone's system because they don't have the "label" you like? (Unless it's BOSE!) Seriously though. I don't knock people who drive Toyotas if I like Hondas. Be thankful I'm in your shop in the first place. Totally turned me off. Guy lost a potential 2K sale.