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Discussion in 'Blu-ray and UHD' started by trajan007, May 13, 2017.

  1. Message #41 of 63 Sep 17, 2018
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    PMF

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    I, myself, would like to have the option.
    I found How the West Was Won to be surprisingly effective on my smaller panel.
     
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    It is effective (beautiful, actually), but that was a movie filmed in true 3-panel Cinerama. Beginning with IT'S A MAD, MAD, MAD, MAD WORLD in 1963, we were provided with single-camera productions whose prints were rectified in order to function on curved screens. It was an impressive system, and I saw 2001, GRAND PRIX, and ICE STATION ZEBRA this way, but I am still sorry as hell I never got the chance to see one of the original Cinerama releases as they should have been seen.
     
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    I was watching a bit of it a while ago and felt the same way (even though it was a flat 138 inch image from my projector).
     
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    It looked beautiful in 2019 as well! Are you aware of the reduced size, lopsided projection Arclight has been doing for a few years now. Have you spoken to them at all about using the whole screen and curvature again for new releases?
     
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    I would have thought using Smilebox would give titles like Grand Prix a new lease of life.
     
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    I saw it twice on Broadway (I believe at the Warner Cinerama), and the second time, I sat way too close. The racing footage gave me motion sickness and I had to get up and walk to the back of the theater to regain my equilibrium. The soap opera relationships between the races are simply horrible, though, and zap more than half the running time. Adding insult to injury, Francoise Hardy and Toshiro Mifune (and maybe others) were badly dubbed. the races are still extraordinary, and though the film was not produced in true Cinerama, it would be fun to own a Smilebox transfer of it, and sit up close to the screen...after taking Dramamine.
     
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    I also saw Grand Prix at the Warner Cinerama. Huge screen...not a good movie. Go see Ford v Ferrari in IMAX or Dolby Theatre. Now that's a good movie!
     
  9. Message #49 of 63 Nov 18, 2019
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    I saw Grand Prix on the Cinerama screen in digital last year in Bradford and it looked fantastic, I saw Ford v Ferrari yesterday
    at my local Odeon in i sense( very big screen) and Dolby Atmos and that was fantastic, two great movies made for large screen.
    I would love to see Patton in Smilebox.
     
  10. Message #50 of 63 Nov 18, 2019
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    Was PATTON ever shown on a curved Cinerama screen? Were there rectified prints of either of the two Dimension 150 films (this and THE BIBLE)?
     
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    Patton was shown at the Casino Cinerama Cinema in London using a D-150 lens.
    I only saw it in NFT 1 in the 70s and that was a standard 70mm print.
     
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    I saw PATTON on a huge curved D-150 screen at the UA Syosset D150 Theater many years ago. Looked great and the sound was the current state of the art.

    When The Bible opened at the Loews State in NYC Fox was planning on showing the film in ToddAO 70mm. The D150 folks wouldn't stand for this and brought(or threatened a lawsuit). A special curved screen was installed at the State Theater just for this run.

    When PATTON opened Roadshow in NYC at the Criterion Theater the screen used was their normal flat screen for 70mm films.
     
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    I read it was DeLaurentis who refused to install D150 and intended to release the Bible in Todd AO to save money.
    As a result all the advertising for the film just said"70mm".
    Although he was forced to install D150 equipment,valuable advertising of the new process was lost and probably helped in the short life of D150.
     
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    I saw both Patton and The Bible in D150 in Puerto Rico. A D150 theater was built to show Patton and then The Bible. After that, it reverted to regular shows.
     
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    You really have not missed much. I saw several of the Cinerama movies in Detroit as a teenager, and what really stands out in my mind are the two horrible join lines between the 3 panels, and the colour variations between them. Although it was wonderful to see movies on that big curved screen, the two join lines really took you “out of the picture”.
     
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    Most seem to have had much better Cinerama experiences than you.
    By the time of West and Grimm,joins were much better disguised and colour
    mismatching barely noticeable.
    Sorry you never saw it at its best.
     
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    That is a good thing about the Digital versions on the Cinerama screen as the join lines are not there, well almost.
     
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    I might have noticed the join lines at the beginning of the movie since it looked so different from going to other movies, but as I got into it (especially West and Grimm), I forgot all about them.
     
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    I remember the colour variation between the panels being particularly noticeable during sequences filmed from a plane. That is why the blu ray version of HTWWW is such a miracle after seeing it for years in its original state.
     
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    I think it was a movie called “Cinerama Russian Holiday” that had a ballerina twirling across the screen. When she reached each join line, she turned into a distorted blob for a second.

    Obviously these flaws did not turn us off, because we kept coming back. I am just illustrating that the experience wasn’t perfect, and the system had its drawbacks, although it could be very effective.

    My first experience seeing 2001 was at the Cinerama theatre, and I know it was not the classic 3 projector kind, but the visuals were spectacular (too bad about the script!). We jumped out of our skins when the big cat leaped at the proto human.
     

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