I don't like em'! You know, the cheap crud you buy at Walmart for $500 with a built in Dolby Digital processor and dvd??? The speakers are like 2 inch full range crud that can't put out anything and they also give you a 30 watt powered "subwoofer" in a PLASTIC box.. ECH!!! I'm so anti-shelf system, anti-small speaker!! Bigger is BETTER! Am I right? I say, am I Right?!?!? Nathan P.S. I hope I have not offended you..