Slayer discussions????

Discussion in 'Archived Threads 2001-2004' started by TimDoss, Nov 16, 2001.

  1. TimDoss

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    Since the other thread was closed before I could
    post.... How is Slayer's new stuff? My favorite album
    was Reign in Blood, followed by Show No Mercy... how does
    the new music compare?
    Also, something I always thought was funny, in an interview
    for South of Heaven they mentioned themselves that the
    biggest improvement for South of Heaven over Reign in Blood
    was that they learned how to play their instruments. I
    guess I preferred it when they didn't know how to play.
     
  2. Brad_W

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    Here's something funny regarding South Of Heaven. After reading the finished lyrics for the whole album the producer noticed that the word, "satan" was not in any of the songs. So Tom went in a added, "you wouldn't believe it, but Satan wouldn't lie." Just an interesting side note.
    My favorite 5 albums are:
    1. Reign in Blood
    2. South of Heaven
    3. Seasons in the Abyss
    4. Show No Mercy
    5. Decade of Agression (yes, a live album, but awesome!)
    I want a DVD for Slayer. Like I said before, I saw them three times and they were awesome!
    Edited to say that I actually didn't answer your original post.
    I prefer the older stuff (from Seasons to Mercy) to their newer.
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    [Edited last by Brad_W on November 16, 2001 at 04:00 PM]
     
  3. TimDoss

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    I only saw them once, the Clash of the Titans tour,
    with Anthrax, Megadeth and Slayer... with Alice in
    Chains opening... great show.
     
  4. Brad_W

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    Uggh, Reign in Blood = Worst Slayer CD
    I love their new CD. That disc kicks some major A**!!! It's about time someone brought back metal the way it used to be.
    Anyways... Hmm, 5 top Slayer CDs:
    1. South of Heaven
    2. Divine Intervention
    3. Seasons in the Abyss
    4. Hell Awaits (just because it has At Dawn They Sleep)
    5. Diabolus in Musica
    Saw them live back on the Fear Factory tour. I can't wait 'till they come back around here again.
    In Flames Next month!!! Whooo Hoooo [​IMG]
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    I'm going to elaborate a bit more on why Reign in Blood sucked!!! (In my Opinion)
    First off, I'm not too sure why Slayer released an album with two good songs. Song number one: Angel of Death and the last track: Raining Blood were killer thrash metal songs. But, everything in between seemed to suck. It was not too much more than a bunch of noise. It was like Slayer was attempting to combine punk and thrash metal into one. Well, hey! At least it worked in Undisputed Attitude. I liked that CD.
    I dont know what it was, but there wasn't anything to catchy on Reign in Blood. The guitaring was awesome on Raining Blood. That was one of the harder Slayer tunes to learn on guitar (well, for me). Everything else on the disc was just 2 minute songs that were terrible. I'm not too sure why anyone liked that CD at all. However, most of my friends think I'm nuts for hating it. What's even more weird... Is that I liked everything before and after Reign in Blodd a lot. That album was just a swing and a miss for me!
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  8. Brad_W

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    I personally love Reign in Blood. Has anyone listened to the "remastered" version? And, believe it or not, there is a remastered version of Obituary's Cause Of Death!
    For me, there are many "catchy" songs off of Reign. When I saw them live and they played several of these, I could actually "sing" along and so did most of the crowd there. To each his own though (ya still like Slayer and that's great).
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  9. Steven K

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    I'm glad that this discussion is going to continue, without you-know-who. I was disappointed to see the other thread closed.
    My favorite Slayer albums, in order, are:
    1. Seasons in the Abyss
    2. Show No Mercy
    3. Reign in Blood
    4. South of Heaven
    5. God Hates Us All
    6. Diabolus in Musica
    7. Hell Awaits
    8. Divine Intervention
    I didn't include "Haunting the Chapel," "Live Undead," or "Decade of Aggression." I really liked HTC, but with only 4 tracks...
    And, my favorite Slayer songs, in order:
    Seasons in the Abyss
    Angel of Death
    Jesus Saves
    South of Heaven
    New Faith
    Stain of Mind
    Crionics
    Expendable Youth
    Dead Skin Mask
    Disciple
    In the Name of God
    Threshold
    Evil has no Boundaries
    Read Between the Lies
    At Dawn they Sleep
    War Ensemble
    About "Reign in Blood" having only 2 decent songs (Angel and Raining Blood), what about Jesus Saves? Yes, it is only 2 and a half minutes long, but it hits damn hard!
    One thing I noticed about Slayer at the concert last week, is that they are really starting to look old. I hadn't seen them in concert in about 10 years, but still, Tom Araya looked like he was really into his 40s (which maybe he is...) Kerry King looked the age as well. Jeff still looked like he had some youth left. But, it didn't stop Slayer from putting on a completely kick ass performance. They still rock after 20 years.
    As far as their newer albums are concerned, I like the sound. Yes, it is different. I think that Slayer is less concerned with the whole satanic gimic (which it really was a gimic). Their music now has more of a agnostic approach. People might look at song titles such as "Darkness of Christ" and say "oh yeah, looks like Slayer is the same old Slayer." But, the lyrics focus more on the bands discontentment with organized religion as a whole. Of course I honestly believe that most of it is a gimic as well. But, whereas it was "cool" back in the 80s to have the "evil" gimic going on, now its more philosophical, to some degree.
    The newer albums (Diabolus and GHUA) have a different sound. But, unlike Metallica (who completely changed their style of music) and Megadeth (who became softer and more mainstream), Slayer's music is just as hard and fast as the older stuff, it just has a more 90's and 2000's feel to it.
    I give the new album 8 out of 10...
     
  10. TimDoss

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    Wow... I've never heard a Metal fan, much less, a Slayer
    fan say that Reign in Blood sucked... I regard it as one
    of the best metal albums ever made. I know that everyone
    is entitled to his own opinion, but I don't like yours...
    change it. [​IMG]
     
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    Im glad to hear Slayer has toned down their attitude regarding the whole "Satanic" image from the 80s.

    My favorite Slayer CD is Seasons in the Abyss.

    On a side note I saw and got to meet Dave Lombardo a couple years ago when he was drumming for Testament at a club show here in Sacramento. Nice guy and a incredible drummer.
     
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    I actually met Lombardo at a show about 2 months ago.

    He was playing in a band with Mike Patton (Faith No More)

    and Buzz (Melvins).

    He was definitely a very nice person to speak with.

    However, a guy I was with brought up Slayer and that

    quickly ended the conversation. Talking with the others,

    they nodded but never gave an explanation why. So, either

    he had a bad falling out or does not have fond

    memories of that time. Oh well.
     
  13. TimDoss

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    Frank, that Pantera exposed is hilarious... I'd love

    to hear them explain that. Thanks for the link.

    Have you read the 20 questions with Dan Spitz? Holy

    shit that guy has issues.
     
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    I LOVE "Reign in blood', and find it hard to believe anyone could think it's Slayer's worst album. To me, it's one of the best albums of all time, in any category.

    Every song is just excellent, the combination between the riffing guitars and the heavy and intense beats has never been better, IMO. My favorite songs are of course "Angel of death" and "Raining blood", but "Piece by piece", "Criminally insane", "Necrophobic" and "Postmortem" are some of the best songs Slayer has ever written.

    I have only seen them live once, back in 1988. GREAT concert, one of the best I've ever been to. Interesting moment during "Postmortem" when Araya shouts the line "Do you want to die?!" and the audience mindlessly yells back "Yeah!". They stopped the song and Tom said something like "What's the matter with you?? You don't want to die!". Haha.

    I haven't listened too much to "God Hates Us All", but what I've heard (MP3's) is excellent.

    /Mike
     
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    TIM
    I did read the Spitz questions - my lord, he is either
    really bitter or plain scary. I'm guessing both.
    It definitely a funny site if you know who these people
    are.
    I put this link up for Alice in Chains on another thread
    but it's too good to miss. The before and after is
    10x worse than Slayer.
    http://www.metal-sludge.com/ExposedAliceInChains.htm
     
  16. TimDoss

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    You know, it's funny seeing these bands like that...

    I partly blame the diehard fans of Slayer, Pantera,

    etc. for the demise of '80s heavy metal... they

    separated the fan base so much... a hard core slayer

    fan would rag on, say a Motley Crue or Ratt fan more

    than he would a Depeche Mode fan. Because the band

    wore make-up or had big hair... so it started to be

    not cool to admit that you listened to it. I wonder

    what they would say if they saw these pictures.

    Come to think of it, I remember Scott Ian and S.O.D.

    really played a big part in that... I'd love to find

    some screwed up old pictures of them.
     
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    My favorites:

    Reign In Blood (Sucks?! Blasphemy!!!)

    South Of Heaven

    Seasons In The Abyss

    Hell Awaits

    Show No Mercy

    Divine Intervention (the last Slayer album Ive heard)
     
  18. Brad_W

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    This thread has certainly helped me get back into listening to my Slayer discs a lot more.
     
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    Personally, I was (still am) a big "hair metal" fan as well as a fan of harder stuff like Slayer and Kreator (remember them? awesome German band!). I never understood the bashing.

    /Mike
     
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    The funny thing is people usually bash what they don't know or understand, so in High School when most people were either into rap, I and my friends were into metal. You should have heard the comments I got. But oh well, I always just thought I had better taste in music than them![​IMG]
     

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