Skynyrd duped again

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  1. John Alvarez

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    This band had a huge influence on the rock scene especially in the late 70's. I can't believe they were left out of the RRHOF again.
     
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    Another that I think should be in there is the Moody Blues. Of course I doub they'll ever get in there.
     
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    The Rock And Roll Hall of Fame doesn't really mean anything.
     
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    Exactly. Totally irrelevant, as are the Grammy's, American Music Awards, and any other lame-ass awards organization that is out there strictly as an exercise is dubious taste and self promotion.

    And where the f*ck is Sabbath in the RRHoF?????? Ozzy has the balls to call them what they are, and for that reason, Sabbath, the single most influential band in all of hard rock, heavy metal or what ever you want to call it, is always excluded.

    BTW, I really like Skynyrd, at least in their original, pre-crash form. I think they get dissed by the mainstream critics because they are the real deal; rednecks that piss on the thought of any sort of political correctness. Those boys could play. To this day I consider the late Leon Wilkinson to have one of the best bass guitar sounds ever.

    Putting that aside, though, I am not sure that I see then as having had any sort of broad influence outside of southern rock and the decade or so where they were at the top of their game. Southern Rock as a whole would seem to be for the most part a dead genre.

    Don't get my wrong, I love Skynyrd, Molly Hatchet, Blackfoot et al, but what bands that are out there now conjure up images of any of those bands?

    BGL
     
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    i think the moodys and skynyrd will get in there................................eventually
     
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    I believe they only recorded for 4 years. The most unlucky band in history. There are some great websites that chronicle their issues, but they kept keepin' on.

    The fact that Gary, Ed King and Billy Powell are still touring is a tribute to their love of the music. Even though they borrowed liberally from the Allman Brothers, they should be in RRHOF. Alabama and Free Bird are rock staples. That means... "FAMOUS" rock staples for all you pinheads running the RRHOF.
     
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    Wow, that's amazing to me, given that I pretty much like everything that they did.....seems to have been longer that that. A real shame, to be sure.

    I consider "One more from the road" to be among the finest live albums ever recorded, with definitive versions of many of their tracks, right next to Made in Japan and The Allman's Fillmore (which I have not heard in its entirety, FWIW).

    BGL
     
  8. John Alvarez

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    Leslie Hawkins was my neighbor after the crash so I got to meet a lot of the influential people of Southern Rock. I was only 16 at the time so that was a huge treat. ( she had a hot daughter too).
    A lot of people here think it's due to their Rebel flags etc...[​IMG]
     
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    I think they're left out more due to disdain for the genre than because of Ozzy's comments. Bowie criticized the HOF and noted he didn't care if he got in, but he still did, so obviously they'll take acts who mock them!
     
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    um......................hehe...................... ............................molly hatchet?

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    and Rush...
    and Genesis...
    and Yes...

    and the list could go on forever.
     
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    The Rock Hall gets more and more irrelevant every year it seems. They'll put in some Doo Wop group with one hit single and totally dis other great artists. I thought they were getting their act together a few years ago by putting in Talking Heads and The Police on their first ballots, but obviously that was a fluke.

    Where the hell is?
    Peter Gabriel
    Genesis
    Rush
    Black Sabbath
    The Cure
    Tom Waits
    King Crimson
    etc...

    It's still a fun visit to see all of the memorobilia, but as for it being a definitive record of rocks greatest artists, it has a long way to go.
     
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    The Hall should have wax figurs of Skynurd street fighting with Neil Young and Crazy Horse. That seems appropriate enough to me.[​IMG]
     
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    Did they ever make peace, or was that just an urban legend?

    BGL
     
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    Yes, the RRHOF is a silly clique.

    As far as Rush, Yes, and Genesis: these are really glaring omissions. Say what you will about Van Halen too, but they deserve to be in there just for the fact that Edward Van Halen is one of, if not the, most innovative guitarists in the last 30 years. Some people may not like Van Halen's party-hard music or Van Hagar's pop rock, but nobody can dismiss that Edward Van Halen is one of rock's all-time great guitarists.

    So, yeah... I don't put much credence into the RRHOF either.
     
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    I don't believe there was ever a personal riff, Ronnie was just busting on that one song (Southern Man). I believe in the liner notes of "One From the Road", Young feels honored to be a key figure in the tune.

    On a seasonal note..... I was in a grocery store and noticed some hokey Christmas CD's. My daughter started leafing through them and I noticed a "Lynyrd Skynyrd/38 Special Christmas Album". For 6.99 I had to give it a whirl...

    Gotta preface this with the band is Skynyrd remnants, not the original lineups. But Gary, Billy, etc pound out an insanely rockin' version of Rudolph the Red Nosed Reindeer ! Also a couple blues-tunes: "Santa Claus Needs Some Loving" and a holiday version of that Blues Brother staple: "Messin' with the Kid". (You can call it Merry Christmas, but I say Santa's messin' with the kid).

    Well worth 7 bucks for all you Skynyrd fans !
     
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    I have lived in the south for 43 years and until two years ago I never pictured myself going to see a skynyrd show. I don't consider myself a redneck or anything. Well, 2 shows later I can say this: This people put on one hell of a great show and are better performers than most of the new talent on the current music scene. I cant wait to see them the third time [​IMG]
     
  18. Kirk Gunn

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    Just caught the current incarnation of Skynyrd on "Crossroads" on CMT - check

    http://www.lynyrdskynyrd.com/

    for the re-run times. I gotta say they are showing more energy in their 50's than they did in their 30's on the Tribute DVD !

    Adding Rickey Medlocke and Hughie Thomasson is an interesting touch. Todd - did they play any Blackfoot tunes when you saw them recently ?
     

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