Simple question: Does the Yammy RX-V730 decode DTS-ES *DISCRETE*?????

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  1. Kelly Scott Rickards

    Kelly Scott Rickards Stunt Coordinator

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    Yamaha's web site is pretty vauge about this, stating the unit can do "DTS ES"

    I mean WTF??

    From what I understand, the RX-V630/HTR-5560 twins can only decode DTS-ES "Matrix" soundtracks,no?

    Can anyone with an RX-V730+ say, a copy of Gladiator or Chicken Run on DVD confirmed this unit can decode DTS-ES Discrete??
     
  2. StevenK

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    Wow, that's news to me that the HTR5560 can only do DTS-ES Matrix. Are you sure about that? From what I understand, the chip to do the DTS-ES Discrete and Matrix is one and the same. Damn! and I just bought a 5560.
     
  3. Bruce Cadotte

    Bruce Cadotte Stunt Coordinator

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    on yamaha's web site it says matrix only for the 730 and down,630/5560,etc,etc

    the 1200 is the first model # that does discrete and then up

    my son has the 5560 and it just does matrix with chicken run.
     
  4. Kelly Scott Rickards

    Kelly Scott Rickards Stunt Coordinator

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    That being the case, the HTR-5490/RX-V1200 clones are probably a better choice over the V730 for those who want DTS-ES Discrete (only problem being the fact the 5490 doesn't have preouts...DOH! )
     
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    O.K., who here wants to pull the comparison chart for 1200 vs. 730......
     
  6. ThomasL

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    I think if you want DTS ES-Discrete in the "budget" class of receivers then the choices are:

    Pioneer VSX-D811S

    Onkyo SR600/700

    Denon 2802

    with the Denon costing the most.

    I've been doing research into this subject for the past few weeks and finally picked up the Pioneer unit and am currently determining if I'll keep it and get one of the other models I listed. I had sort of marked the Yamaha 5560 off my list because it didn't have DTS NEO6, DTS ES Discrete or a settable bass crossover (my center, and surrounds only go down to 80 Hz and my fronts only go down to 70 Hz - I'd like to be able to set it at 100 or 120Hz). Is there another Yamaha model I should be looking at? The 5490? Yamaha's web site is horrible. They could at least list the AV receiver models by year or features or something.

    cheers,

    --tom
     
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    Even if you pop in Gladiator or Chicken Run, how can you tell?? The ES light is going to come on and the rear center speaker will fire up, but you still won't be able to tell the difference! Or will you???
     
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    On the Pioneer model, the displays shows either DTS-ES or DTS-ES Discrete so if you believe the display, it is processing it as Discrete and not matrix.

    cheers,

    --tom
     
  9. Kelly Scott Rickards

    Kelly Scott Rickards Stunt Coordinator

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    Thomas, the Yamaha HTR-5490 *does* decode DTS ES discrete and also features DTS Neo:6 processing. AFAIK, It is the only "non-identical" twin in Yammy's line. The processing and amps are the same (though the HTR's amps are measured @ 1kHz) as the 1200 but the 5490 lacks the detachable power cord (no biggie) and preouts (biggie) of the RX-V1200. Other than that, the 2 r TEH SaMe [​IMG]
    As far as selectable xovers, all Yammies are locked @ 90Hz I believe.
    One thing that you might want to look at would be Denon's 8xx line. The philosopy of this line is the same as Yammy's HTR line (measure amps @ 1kHz, give slightly different cosmetics and model # designations, distribute through mass-market retailers only, simmer and serve at room temp.). The top Denon 8xx is a perfect clone of the 2802 and it is available at places like yahooshopping.com for less than the 2802. I can't remember the exact model # but you can find them on denon's site under "AM/FM Recievers"
    P.S. If you look at Sherwood's site (just sherwood, not sherwood newcastle) you will find 2 inexpensive, full featured recievers the 7108 ($299 MSRP) and the 8108 ($399 MSRP) They both have 100 watts per channel (8 Ohms, 20-20kHz) Decode DD, DTS, DD EX, DTS ES matrix *AND* Discrete + they both feature DPL2 and DTS Neo6 (the 7108 only has a sub preout, I think)
    tEh cATcH: Sherwood products are the UFO's of the A/V industry [​IMG]
     
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  12. Jason Wilcox

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    oh ok sorry
     

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