Should we even begin worrying about HVD?

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  1. Ronald Epstein

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    Following quote from Sound and Vision Feb 2006:

     
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    Well, 2007 is only 6 months away, what studios have signed up for HVD?

    I think that is key, right now, none of the current studios would want to supplant their respective formats for HVD when all parties have their current interests tied up with HD DVD And Blu-Ray.

    While Toshiba is backing it, I still think it is a lot more vaporware right now and we have nothing to be worried about in the time being.
     
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    There will be something better, this may be it, it may not. Who knows. We all knew when we bought in SD-DVD years ago that something better would be coming. It's the way it is in this hobby of ours. There will always be something better.
     
  4. Ronald Epstein

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    Yeah, but Ron....

    It took nearly 10 years for HD-DVD/Blu-Ray to evolve from SD-DVD.

    In just one year after the release of HD-DVD/Blu-Ray, we are
    already being propositioned with a better format.

    That is scary!
     
  5. Stan Rozenfeld

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    Ron,

    What would be the advantage of hvd for movies, considering the quality that we see right now in hd dvd? Especially when you consider the costs. For data storage, I can see it happening, but for movie delivery, I am skeptical.

    Stan
     
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    Ah, but blue lasers and high-definition were being talked about before DVD came out. Go to the, I think it was comp.sci.videodisc Newsgroup archives, and you'll find discussion of that from 1994. Since I seriously doubt that we are going to be looking at any new consumer video formats beyond 1080p for the forseeable future, I think any home-video application of HVD is going to be a long way off.
     
  7. Ron-P

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    I don't see HVD being it, or nothing for a long while for that matter. The studios haven't even put a firm grasp around HD-DVD/Blu-ray yet, no way are they going to jump aboard another format so soon. Storage that size, even BDs 50gig isn't needed for movies anyway.
     
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    I think Blu-ray and/or HD DVD will be the last video disc format --- downloading is likely to be the future (still years away though from being mainstream).

    HVD will exist for other reasons instead of commerical home video in my opinion.
     
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    I'm still waiting for FMD to take over.

    Bruce
     
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    Um, the last time I talked to anyone involved about HDV, they weren't talking about consumer video.

    HDV recorders were in the estimated targer price of $13,000.

    Blank media (300GB) was being targeted for $100-$120.

    It's nice for archiving, but not general home video usage...

    Leo
     
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    Ron, didja' get your new player yet?!?!?

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Ronald Epstein

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    Dave,

    Yes. it arrived yesterday.

    Only got about 10 minutes to look at it. I'm going to post
    a full review on Thursday after I have watched a few titles.
     
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    I doubt it.

    HVD is reported to be glacially slow compared to modern technology, it's also a paradign shift in storage. So whether or not it could transfer at sufficient speeds to support HD video with HD sound is open to debate. It's cost would be exorboriant at best, as it'd require completely new manufacturing lines for all variety of parts not found in any industry atm. Vast amounts of investment would have to occur just to produce HVD on any scale, and the consumers would have to bankroll it.

    HVD may occur down the road, in 5-10 years, but for today discs are it.
     
  14. Dave Mack

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    Thanks Ron!

    Let us know what ya think!

    Happy 4th!

    [​IMG]
     
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    An interesting development...

    http://www.dailytech.com/article.aspx?newsid=3081

    Sounds like it's solved most of the HVD problems using Nanotech, and boosted transfer rates to acceptable levels as well. Packaged correctly, it could make HD-DVD and BR transient medias if they could get it to the market.
     
  16. Dave Mack

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    Ron! Got the review done yet?
    Interested for your take!

    [​IMG] dave
     
  17. Ronald Epstein

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    Dave,

    Been up there for a week.

    You miss the banner on the top of the forum listing page?

    Hint: It has to do with a picture of a fence.

    Let me know what you think. Thanks, bud!
     
  18. Dave Mack

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    Sorry! I have been researching a new PJ purchase, finally settled on the Mits hc3000U so I've been in a different mode. [​IMG]

    d
     
  19. Dave Mack

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    Just read it, good balanced and thorough.

    I just upgraded my PJ and am SOOO ready to leap!

    [​IMG]
     
  20. Ronald Epstein

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    PJ...PJ....what is PJ? It should be obvious but I'm still in
    early morning grog mode.

    Thanks for the kind words on the review.

    Listen, Dave, I wouldn't be pushing this format in time of a war if
    I didn't feel confident that this was worth a $500 purchase.

    Go ahead....buy one already!
     

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