Dah-Dee
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Recently bought a pair each of the JBL S36II and S36IIPM speakers Best Buy had on sale, and they sure look like the same exact speaker, only difference being the cabinet color [dark gray for the II, silver for the PM] and grill [black fabric for the II, hard silver grill for the PM]. In addition, the specs on JBL's web site are identical with this exception: JBL refers to the cone material of the II as "PolyPlas," and refers to the cone material of the PM as "WeatherPlas." Additional info for each speaker states the same thing, though: woofer/mid cones are constructed of "polymer-coated cellulose fiber."
I've been involved in the last few days in a discussion revolving around this cone material and these speakers. Other people seem to think that WeatherPlas is a different material from PolyPlas; I think JBL changed the name for the PM cones to fit with their new marketing plan for this speaker, as a niche product -- the PM [Plasma Monitor] and AW [All Weather] sister models are being pushed for inside/outside use, although I did see where the promotional materials for the S36II also talked briefly about the moisture-resistant properties of the cone material. Anyway, this is really bugging me now and I'm hoping for a more informed opinion on this forum. Is WeatherPlas different from PolyPlas, or is it just a marketing gimmick?
I already e-mailed JBL twice about this, and the first time they told me that "Essentially, the JBL S36II and S36IIPM are the same speaker. These 2 speakers sound identical, and should not have any problems as far as the timbre is concerned."
Then, in an alleged response to my inquiry as to whether WeatherPlas is the same thing as PolyPlas, they told me, "The S36IIPM literature states that the cone material is a "WeatherPlas", as these speakers can be mounted both indoors and outdoors. The cone is treated with a light coating to allow them to be used outdoors."
The first JBL statement reinforced my opinion that these are the same exact speaker. How could they sound exactly the same, match in timbre if the cones were manufactured differently?
The second JBL statement ticked me off, as it seemed they were being intentionally evasive, quoting the same description any of us can see on their website rather than answering my question: Is WeatherPlas simply a new marketing name, replacing PolyPlas, for polymer-coated cellulose fiber? Is it unreasonable to expect a yes/no answer to that question?
I've e-mailed them again, asking for clarification, again, but would appreciate any insight offered here. Thanks.
Links:
JBL S36IIPM product page at JBL.com: http://www.jbl.com/home/products/pro...CheckProduct=Y
JBL S36II product page at JBL.com: http://www.jbl.com/home/products/pro...CheckProduct=Y
I've been involved in the last few days in a discussion revolving around this cone material and these speakers. Other people seem to think that WeatherPlas is a different material from PolyPlas; I think JBL changed the name for the PM cones to fit with their new marketing plan for this speaker, as a niche product -- the PM [Plasma Monitor] and AW [All Weather] sister models are being pushed for inside/outside use, although I did see where the promotional materials for the S36II also talked briefly about the moisture-resistant properties of the cone material. Anyway, this is really bugging me now and I'm hoping for a more informed opinion on this forum. Is WeatherPlas different from PolyPlas, or is it just a marketing gimmick?
I already e-mailed JBL twice about this, and the first time they told me that "Essentially, the JBL S36II and S36IIPM are the same speaker. These 2 speakers sound identical, and should not have any problems as far as the timbre is concerned."
Then, in an alleged response to my inquiry as to whether WeatherPlas is the same thing as PolyPlas, they told me, "The S36IIPM literature states that the cone material is a "WeatherPlas", as these speakers can be mounted both indoors and outdoors. The cone is treated with a light coating to allow them to be used outdoors."
The first JBL statement reinforced my opinion that these are the same exact speaker. How could they sound exactly the same, match in timbre if the cones were manufactured differently?
The second JBL statement ticked me off, as it seemed they were being intentionally evasive, quoting the same description any of us can see on their website rather than answering my question: Is WeatherPlas simply a new marketing name, replacing PolyPlas, for polymer-coated cellulose fiber? Is it unreasonable to expect a yes/no answer to that question?
I've e-mailed them again, asking for clarification, again, but would appreciate any insight offered here. Thanks.
Links:
JBL S36IIPM product page at JBL.com: http://www.jbl.com/home/products/pro...CheckProduct=Y
JBL S36II product page at JBL.com: http://www.jbl.com/home/products/pro...CheckProduct=Y