See the difference between Anamorphic Widescreen and Letterbox Widescreen

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  1. MikeEckman

    MikeEckman Screenwriter

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    I realize this probably doesnt belong in the Software forum, but I think this is something that is very important that everyone needs to see, and since it most directly affects DVDs themselves, it should be posted here. Mods, feel free to move this to whatever hardware or display forum if you feel necessary.
    Over the years of reading this board and other home theater related boards, I have seen many people ask what is anamorphic (16x9) widescreen. There are many great articles on the net explaining what it is, but I've never seen anything that does a good job showing you the difference. So, armed with my Sony WEGA TV, a Toshiba PDR-M25 Digital Camera, and the Superbit version of The Fifth Element, I took some pictures, and made a simple HTML doc for you to all enjoy. I hope this is informative to all of you who still didnt really understand the difference, and I hope it can be of some use to those studios who dont see 16x9 enhancement as an important feature.
    http://www.metalreviewcentre.com/16x9.htm
     
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    Very cool site, Mike! I've got a 27" WEGA, and the difference between anamorphic and non-anamorphic is sometimes like night and day. I'm just waiting for the day when I can afford a 16x9 set (although the WEGA is great for now).
    One slight inaccuracy that I noticed, though--Sony is not the only manufacturer of 4x3 TV's in the US that can do "the squeeze." I understand that Samsung also makes one.
     
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    I know of a really cool site that has information on this. [​IMG]
    http://www.widescreen.org/dvd_anamorphic.shtml
    Actually, I think that it's difficult to accurately show the resolution different in a web site with a computer monitor. The most that can really be done is to explain what the differences are and emphazise the need to only expand horizontally with 16:9 enhanced.
    The only real way to see the difference is to take the same movie and show it in 4:3 and 16:9 modes on a 16:9 TV.
     
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    Nice write-up, but Samsung and the Akai clones have the squeeze mode for anamorphic.
     
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    I will make the changes to the website to indicate other companies have this mode as well.
     
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    John--I agree that the best way to tell the difference is with a widescreen set, but you can still see a noticeable difference between anamorphic and non-anamorphic on the WEGA sets, even with a 27" like mine. Why every manufacturer of 4x3 sets doesn't incorporate "the squeeze" as standard equipment escapes me.
     
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    John, What class do you consider the WEGA's to be in?
     
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    I have a question about anamorphic squeeze. Everytime that I put my tv into that mode the picture gets noticeably darker (I can barely make out people during certain scenes). So then I have to fix it by turning up the brightness and contrast. Why does it do that, is it supposed to? And it's a Samsung TXL2791F.
     
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    Believe it or not, you can easily demonstrate this phenomena on any photo editor. Take any picture and squeeze it down to a smaller size. Now enlarge that picture back to its normal dimensions, and it's clear to see a loss of resolution.
    BTW, does anybody have any clue why anamorphic widescreen/enhanced for 16:9 sets is so hard to do for DVD's? I'm curious to why a studio wouldn't do that in the first place.
    BTW (again), how can something be anamorphic full frame? (eg. I saw the box for Buena Vista Social Club and it said this strangely enough).
     
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    Thanks for those websites and I will have a look later at them for sseing the differences between the two
    [​IMG]
     
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    Very helpful Mike! Though I understood the difference in theory, it's nice to be able to see it in practice.
     
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