SE7EN , Big Trouble In Little China, My Man Godfrey Superbits!

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  1. Philip Verdieck

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  2. Jimmy Nugent

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    was this thread a victim of the downed database or is my computer malfunctioning? All of these titles piqued my interest only to be disappointed by no info. Any chance of getting the original post resurrected?

    Thanks-
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    here are some bit rates for various titles that are not owned by Columbia/Tri-Star and thus will never be packaged as superbits
    HOWEVER
    their bit rates are already higher than some of the *official* Superbits, and sometimes this is with substantial extras.



    so as a public service, if you are looking at at purchasing a 'high bit-rate' title to show off your system, these are some other titles to keep in mind.
    most will not only be cheaper than the average superbit, but also probably include some *gasp* added value content as well.

    Big Trouble in Little China 9.13
    Predator 8.84
    Devil Rides Out 8.75
    Terminator 8.75
    Last Wave 8.69
    Legend of Hell House 8.67
    Witness 8.63
    Pitch Black 8.40
    Alien Resurrection 8.39
    My Man Godfrey 8.38
    Unbreakable 8.37
    Tron 8.32
    Die Hard 7.73Mbps average rate.
     
  4. Dave Poehlman

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    Thanks for the info, Paul. It would be interesting to have a more complete bitrate database someplace.

    Is there a minimum bitrate for Columbia/Tristar to label a title "superbit"? Or does it just have to be at a higher bitrate than the previous release?

     
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    just to clarify;
    it's one thing if you are purchasing the superbits to get the DTS track.
    however, for people who are picking these up expecting Video nirvana every time out, it worth keeping in mind how many other things besides bit rate affect the picture you will see on the screen.
    for example, i wouldn't expect the From Here To Eternity superbit to look anywhere as good as some of the Warner classics released in the last year, because the film was never restored.
    and it certainly wouldn't look as good as Sunset Boulevard, which also contains a good amount of added value content.
    i pity people picking up the FHTE SB thinking they are getting a state of the art representation of a classic film for a premium price.

    and for people comparing the SB rlease of a given title to its original issue- whos to say they couldn't have managed that all along?
     
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    It's been ages since I last watched it, but didn't Dreamworks give us Antz at some phenomenally high bit rate? Seems to me I recall checking the meter several times, only to find it hovering around 9 or higher. The transfer isn't the best animation has to offer, by any means, and of course there's more to a good transfer than bits (original elements, the quality of the video master, telecine choices, etc.), but Antz has been out for years, with a nice set of supplements, yet certainly illustrates how readily a title can be optimized with the available data rate.
     
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    My Man Godfrey Superbit? Now that's odd.

    Should be interesting to see how it stacks up against the Criterion.

    Is this news for real? [​IMG]
     
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    Rain, I think the point he was trying to make was that the My Man Godfrey disc had a very high bitrate that rivaled those of Superbit discs...
     
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    Oh....

    That's what I get for drinking beer in the afteroon.

    :b [​IMG]
     
  10. Philip Verdieck

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    FYI

    There was a db server issue.

    I was not the 1st poster, but I tried to bump the message to get a redisplay. When I tried to read the thread, it took me automatically to the reply page, so I figured I could trick the software into displaying the thread.
     
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    How do you determine the bitrate on a DVD?
     
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    My player has a display function for
    TR. RATE, is this the same as a bit rate? If so, 8 Mile never dips below 7.
     
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    If Se7en coudl have such a great bitrate with four commentaries on this disc, I'd think Columbia could keep commentaries on the Superbit Deluxe releases. If it weren't for the lost features, I'd buy these all the time.
     
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    Of course DJ is right (again [​IMG] ) but a single commentary should take no more than 192 kb/s, or even 96 kb/s if that would be really important for the video bitrate.

    And if you check the bitrates on current Superbit titles, I wonder how much time (or how many times) in a movie the maximum bitrate (which is about 10240 kb/s, if I'm not mistaken) is utilized and there'd actually be no "spare" bandwidth available for a 192 kb/s (or 96 kb/s) commentary.
     

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