Sat-Sub vs 5" Bookshelves with no sub?

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  1. Derek H

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    I live in an apartment so I dont want to piss off the neighbors. I've listened to the Paradigm Cinema series and Mirage avs600 (both are sub-sat set ups).

    I know the Sub is quite important to fill in the mid-range for Sat-sub setups, but will a sub turned down in volume (to please the neighbors) ruin the mid-range? If thats the case will bookshelves without a sub be a better option?
     
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    Derek, I think a sub in any apartment will be a problem.
     
  3. Derek H

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    anyone else have any input?
     
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    if you dial the sub in so that it's at the same level as your sats, you can keep the general volume low without muddying up the mid-bass or losing mid-bass.

    just because you have a sub doesn't mean you have to play it as loud as it can go... everything can still be heard in moderation.

    On the flip side, i'm in an apt and I have athena AS-F2's for my mains and those suckers put out enough bass where I don't need a sub yet. (I will in a few months when I move up)
    So, if you plan on staying in an apt, and will be playing at a limited volume, you might be better off skipping the sub and grabbing two near full range fronts and sat surrounds.
     
  5. Jason Dalton

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    If you are a temporary apartment dweller I would just go with some bookshelfs with extension down to ~30-40Hz and upgrade to a sub when you don't have to worry about neighbors.

    If you are a permanent apartment dweller I would get a smaller sub and try to figure out what your neighbors limits are (without being too annoying).
     
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    Bookshelf speakers with response to the 30s are almost non-existent and the ones that do aren't usually inexpensive. Even 40s is rare for a booshelf. Most good bookshelf speakers that I've heard are in the mid to low 50s -3dB. That's still decent bass, but probably not as deep as a quality sub/sat will get. What you WILL get with a good booshelf though, is much better midrange.

    Your room size will be a factor too. If you have a big room, sats will have a much harder time filling it.

    What's the price range?

    I use Mordaunt Short 902s in my bedroom with no sub, and they are -3dB at 55Hz.
     
  7. Derek H

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    600 is about my price range. I do have hook ups (employee discounts, but not mine). The Sub-Sat that I like are the Paradigm Cinema series $550 cdn.
     

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