Samsung DVD-HD1000: available when?

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  1. David Susilo

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    This DVD player suposedly output 1080i and will be available in June 2002 as stated on the US and Canadian websites.

    Anybody knows anything about this unit?
     
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    Thanks for the link! Anybody have seen this unit in action? $2G Canadian is a lot if the 1080i quality sucks.
     
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    Regardless of what is listed for sale on any website, I don't believe the HD1000 is available for purchase yet. The last word I got was September. They haven't even released the 921 yet, and that was originally scheduled for July.
     
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    How will it achieve 1080i/720p? Simply upconverting the video?

    And how will this give better video? I mean in know that 480p is better because of 3:2 pulldown and not simply line-doubling. But how will the DVD player upconvert 480i to 1080i to give better video?
     
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    I don't know about what's inside that DVD player, but there are upconverters for broadcast usage which will upconvert 480i source to 1080i/720p.

    How much better the end result is going to be? well, I've never seen it. Supposedly every HD broadcasters use at least one of these units for at least the commercials they aired.
     
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    Video is upconverted inside your Digital TV now. up converting it in the DVD player means one less conversion?
     
  8. David Susilo

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    But none of the HDTV set upconverts any input to 720p/1080i. The maximum it does is upconverting the signal to 480p, or in the case of Sony, 960p which by the way looks really ugly.
     
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    The player uses a Faroudja deinterlacer, my guess is they are using Faroudja's scaling as well.
     
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    Am I wrong...

    Doesn't my Hughes HDTV box send out 1080i?
     
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    Jay: Yes you're right, because its an HDTV box... it takes a native 1080i HD Signal from your satellite and outputs it to your TV... DVDs however are not originally 1080i, and must be upconverted to HD resolutions.
     
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    I'd be "leary" of a DVD player that transcodes DVD 480i or 480p into 1080i (or 720p) so that the image looked better.

    My DISH 6000 HDTV SAT receiver will, if I wish, transcode all 480i channels coming in up to 1080i (or 720p).

    This "upconversion" is not good - the channel looks better left in the native 480i coming out of the 6000 and into my RPTV (my RPTV then merely line doubles to 480p - which can be done inexpensively to make images look smoother). (I'm talking here relative to CRT displays - not fixed pixel.)

    The guys at Faroudja I talked to at the CES show recommended against this type of 480i->720p or 1080i upconversion in DVD players as not gaining anything and very difficult to do inexpensively "right" so that resulting image would actually look any better to you. The Faroudja guys did say that ordering/specifying one of their Native Rate $10K DVD players to output at 540p would possibly add a bit to DVD images on CRT displays, but to not go beyond this even with their NR player because nothing would be gained in a CRT display.

    The $20K discrete scalers can sometimes pull this off for CRT displays ...... but at DVD player selling prices ....... probably not likely.
     
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    The only problem is nobody at Samsung Canada even knows that they are manufacturing this particular DVD player.
     
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    Nick,

     
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