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Didn't recall Linda Hayes made three films with Rogers. Remembered only one, offhand. I don't know much about Hayes, other than she seemed to cap a long list of 1930s RKO starlets, like Margaret Callahan, Louise Latimer, and Whitney Bourne, who all came around for a short time, and whose careers disappeared very quickly. Many such leading-ladies are often quite appealing, but somehow might not have had the extra qualities to help them stand out. One quirkly little RKO contractee who was (very briefly) at RKO, the young dancer/comedienne Lorraine Kruger, always struck me as having a lot of potential, but her career never seemingly went anywhere. She should have at least found a little 'comical sidekick' niche like Dorothea Kent did.

VCI's next Universal serial on the docket to be released on blu is apparently "Riders of Death Valley" (1941), the highly hyped 'million dollar serial.' Despite its very star-studded western cast, I've always found this one... not necessarily bad, but rather doggedly routine. Still nice to finish off the Universal 'Buck Jones' serial filmography. I'll happily purchase it, as well as "Pirate Treasure" (1934), which I think VCI tentatively has planned after that.

I also noticed that author Martin Grams has a book coming out devoted to the Renfrew of the Royal Mounted character, covering its origins and its radio/film/book history. Sounds pretty interesting, and I'm certainly going to get it. Refrew's fame and pop-culture status sort of got short-circuited by circumstances, leaving Sgt. Preston to jump into that slot, supplanting him. Should be a nifty book. Grams has gone into a lot of research, like he has for the early days of the "Lone Ranger" radio series, where he unearthed a lot of fascinating tidbits.
 

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You know, Jeff, I looked around to see if I could find pictures of Jennifer Connelly wearing a cowboy hat, but only found one online from a movie with Josh Brolin called "Only The Brave", about forest fire fighters. Which brings us back to our trying times.

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I couldn't find many pictures of her in hats at all.

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Bringing things back to westerns, Josh Brolin was in the pony express series "The Young Riders" and was in that based on the comic book "Jonah Hex", movie, which I meant to take a look at some time.

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Just like Roy and Dale, Jennifer Connelly likes plaid.
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Searching for Jennifer Connelly cowboy hat pictures brought up a bunch of other Jennifers. But the one I thought I'd highlight is Jennifer Holt. She was in many B westerns and was a Princess of the Western, since she was the daughter of Jack Holt and the sister of Tim Holt. She liked plaid too.

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Tim! That's no way to treat your sister!
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Jack Holt.
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Tim Holt.
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Tim Holt: Ghost Rider comic cover, with, I think, Frank Franzetta art.
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Jack Holt starred with Roy in, MY PAL TRIGGER and TRAIL OF ROBIN HOOD.

For fun, some stills from "The Treasure of the Sierra Madre", with Tim Holt and Jack Holt.

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I kind of, not only, consider "Treasure" a western, but also a Tim Holt western, too. Since Holt still has his humanity at the end.
 

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Bert, you mention four actresses I "never heard of", but turns out I have them all in the collection.

Margaret Callahan with only 6 IMDB credits. I have seen her in the Gene Raymond version of "Seven Keys To Baldpate". WAC has a triple feature out on that title.

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Lucille Ball, Margaret Callahan, Joy Hodges, Ann Shirley, Phyllis Brooks (Roy's co-star in SILVER SPURS), Milly Lamont.
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Louise Latimer, 12 credits at IMDB, I have seen in two of the Hildegarde Withers mysteries on the WAC set.
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Whitney Bourne, 10 IMDB credits, I have only seen her in "The Mad Miss Manton" playing one of Barbara Stanwyck's society gal pals.
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Lorraine Kruger, with 45 IMDB credits, is the 'old pro'. I think I have seen at least 4 of her movies.
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Lorraine Kruger is in "Dance Girl Dance"-1940, out on Disc from Criterion. There's an Evalyn Knapp movie with the same title with a different plot.

"Dance Girl, Dance" clip. Lorraine Kruger is the short blond on the right. Our favorite Hal Roach starlet, Marjorie Woodworth, is on Lucille Ball's right.



Dorothea Kent was with Roy in KING OF THE COWBOYS.
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And Dorothea Kent was also the female lead in the Renfrew movie, "Danger Ahead".

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Bert, that Renfrew book seems like a must have. I didn't realize there was a radio show. It will be interesting to see the time line of Renfrew and Preston. And I have got to pick up the other Buck Jones serials, too.
 
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IN OLD CHEYENNE-1941, B&W 58 minutes.
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Another not available in the full version. I have IN OLD CHEYENNE, in the 53 minute syndicated versions, on the Roan DVD double feature with HELDORADO-1946 and on the Alpha DVD double feature with SOUTH OF SANTA FE. The Roan looks sharper.

IN OLD CHEYENNE is an old west adventure and Roy plays a character called Steve Blane, a reporter for a great metropolitan newspaper. He goes to Cheyenne to write about an old owl-hoot, played by Gabby, who seems to be making trouble.
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Actually, Gabby is retired. Local rich guy, George Rosener is behind the trouble. Rustling, robbing, and pushing settlers off their land.
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Head henchman William Haade with his boss, George Rosener.
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The bad guys, Jack Kirk, William Haade, and Hal Taliaferro.
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Roy or Steve's romantic interest is Joan Woodbury, playing a famous Spanish dancer. (She even appears on cigarette cards!)
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She was raised in Spain, but was born in the U.S.A. Joan is visiting her father, J. Farrell MacDonald, who publishes the local Cheyenne newspaper. I've always found J. Farrell MacDonald to be a likeable actor in numerous movies.
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Roy/Steve wants to work with MacDonald on the story.
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Sally Payne is Gabby's daughter and she's interested in Roy/Steve.
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As an aside it's mentioned that Cheyenne is the first city, "in the country", to get electricity? That can't be true.
In this case, I think, "in the country" means "around here", not in the whole U.S.A. Joan's character up in lights.
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Look out Gabby!!!
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So what's in the missing three minutes? Hard to say. Joan Woodbury performs a dance number and Roy/Steve sings along. During a later party scene Roy/Steve calls a square dance. (That's something young Roy was noted for.)

Roy/Steve arrives in town without Trigger, but he is riding Trigger later and Trigger responds to his commands. So maybe there is a missing scene with Roy/Steve meeting up with Trigger and explaining that Trigger is his trained horse?? Maybe a missing song? Anyway, the story doesn't seem to be missing anything.

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Edited version, on YouTube.
 
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Joan Woodbury also played a Spanish or Latin dancer in THE EAGLE'S BROOD-1935, the second Hopalong Cassidy movie. (Gabby was in THE EAGLE'S BROOD also, but it was before he was 'Gabby' and even before he was 'Windy' in the Hoppy series.

Joan Woodbury was billed as 'Nana Martinez' in THE EAGLE'S BROOD.

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Some Joan Woodbury glamour.
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Joan Woodbury is remembered by movie serial buffs as starring in, BRENDA STARR, REPORTER-1945.

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Joan with, costar, Kane Richmond. Note, for the posters they added cleavage to Joan's modest outfit.
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Joan Woodbury was another actress that was a first billed lead or second billed co-star in B-features.

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She even co-starred with Parkyakarkus!!!
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Back at Republic she appeared with Roy again as a bad girl in SUNSET SERENADE-1942 (see Post #203 page 11) and with Douglas Fowley, below. She also appeared with Fowley in "CHARLIE CHAN ON BROADWAY-1937. (Sometimes I think Douglas Fowley was in every B-movie made, in the 30s,40s and 50s.)
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Joan Woodbury was married to, C.B. DeMille favorite, Henry Wilcoxon.
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Good excuse for me to give my Roan dvd of "In Old Cheyenne" (1941) a new spin. It's indeed hard to tell where the cuts are in this one. Luckily, these earlier Rogers films had those shorter running-times, so the edits aren't quite as brutal as in the mid-1940s entries. Missing songs are usually the culprit, of course. But there's also a scene here in which Roy, after talking with publisher J. Farrell MacDonald in his office, says he's going into the back to see Woodbury, but we get no follow-up scene. Might be something snipped there. Great shots of Woodbury. She attended at least one of those western film fairs back in the day (not long before she passed away), but it was before I began going to them. For the longest time, serial buffs were looking for "Brenda Starr, Reporter" (1945), it was one of the last MIA titles from the 1940s, in terms of the collector circuit, before VCI made it available. Anyway, "In Old Cheyenne" is a pretty nice, if unexceptional, outing, which is boosted by some offbeat touches, like Gabby's animal 'menagerie,' and little bits involving things like electric signs and cigarette cards. Good touches you probably just wouldn't see in a concurrent Don 'Red' Barry western at Republic.

I've picked up a few movie-star oriented cigarette cards years ago, as they'd sometimes appear at postcard shows or antique shops. Most I've encountered have been of British origin. The sets will usually be a mixture of top American stars, mixed in with folks like Nova Pilbeam, Gordon Harker, and Rene Ray. The very small size of cigarette cards always made them a somewhat unsatisfying collectible from my perspective, especially compared to arcade-cards (which are postcard sized). Plus, the latter really specialized in cowboy stars, adding to their appeal for me.

It surprised me to see Joy Hodges upthread in that lineup of RKO starlets. Never knew she was at RKO, and always associated her almost exclusively with Universal. I think she had at least one stab at an "A" film as leading lady, "Merry-Go-Round of 1938." But I don't think the film was a hit, and it probably kept her down in the B basement, with films like "The Family Next Door" (1939), which is the film I remember most of hers. It might have been a similar situation with the aforementioned Lorraine Krueger, who got her initial RKO spotlight in the studio's notorious "New Faces of 1937," which turned out to be a massive flop, and likely scuttled her career before it even started (although the studio did shunt her off, teaming her again with Joe Penner, in one of his minor B's that same year).

These two films actually bring up that brief spell of movies which incorporated release-years into their titles. I always figured Paramount's "Big Broadcast" films (1936, 1937, 1938) got the ball rolling. It probably did, although WB had that "Fashions of 1934" movie a few years earlier. There was also that Technicolor extravaganza "Vogues of 1938" (1937), from Walter Wanger (and United Artists). A fluff of a movie, but I'd bet it would look stunning on blu-ray. Not sure if it was a money-loser, but whatever the case, the studios quickly started shying away from such titles. "New Faces" was probably most to blame, I'm sure. However, good ole Republic didn't follow suit, as they had their Hit Parade series of features. The first, "The Hit Parade" (1937), didn't utilize the year in its title, but all the later follow-ups (1941, 1943, 1947, 1951) did. A lot of these films got retitled for television later on, not surprisingly. I might be forgetting a few. I know there was also the British "Radio Parade of 1935," which featured a late role for Dracula's girlfriend, Helen Chandler. I'd never even heard of this film until recent years, nor have I seen it.
 

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Re-reading my above discussion, I see that I left out mention of MGM's "Broadway Melody" series as a factor, which is something I'd intended to add. I thought the "Big Broadcast" sequels were the first, but checking just now on imdb, it appears that both "Broadway Melody of 1936" (1935-MGM) and "The Big Broadcast of 1936" (1935-Par) were actually released on the very same day... September 20, 1935. So, I guess they both contributed fairly equally to that trend in titles.

Although preceding this, Fox did have those releases of "George White's Scandals" (1934) and its follow-up, "George White's 1935 Scandals" (1935) laying the groundwork. I still never have seen the former, which I believe was Alice Faye's first film. The Fox Archive put out the second one, which features Ned Sparks quite prominently, as I recall. Plus, you get to hear the actual lyrics to "Hunkadola," which for years I only knew via the Benny Goodman instrumental recording for Victor.
 

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Wanted to post here that Roy Rogers' BELLS OF CORONADO (1950, William Witney) is now available to rent or purchase on Amazon Prime or iTunes. It looks gorgeous and sure beats the old DVD. Also, for Republic serial fans, the 1966 feature version of THE CRIMSON GHOST is available under the title of CYCLOTRODE X. This is fun to see one of Clayton Moore's rare turns as a bad guy. I have not purchased it yet but plan to.
 

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NEVADA CITY-1941, B&W, 58 minutes.
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Another, only around in the syndicated 53 minute version. I have the darkish Alpha DVD, on a double feature with SUNSET ON THE DESERT-1942, (see Post #485, page 25.) The Alpha NEVADA CITY print has a Republic Eagle logo at the front, which is wrong for the original release period and a generic "The End". No end Republic Logo or end credits.

Roy plays a character named, 'Jeff'. He's a driver for a stage line owned by George Cleveland, Sally Payne, and, her kid brother, Billy Lee. Gabby is Roy's shot-gun guard.

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The stage line is being attacked by Fred Kohler, Jr., known as 'Black Bart', who leaves poems at the scenes of his crimes.

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Cleveland thinks 'Black Bart' is working for, railroad builder, Joseph Crehan, to drive the stage line out of business.

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Actually, Kohler is attacking the stage line and the railroad for Pierre Watkin, who wants to take over both companies.

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Outlaw, Black Bart, complete with poems, was a real Old West stagecoach robber. We know this because he was arrested by both, Jim Hardie, Special Investigator for Wells Fargo and Matt Clark, Railroad Detective.

Roy has a nice conversation with Joseph Crehan about stages and railroads, and uses the term 'on the level'. This refers to a stretch of the road, railway or highway, that is level or smooth riding, no worries about upgrades or downgrades.

Sally Payne, who made nine movies with Roy, is Roy's romantic interest. This is a change from her usual comic relief girlfriend of the female lead. She's still funny here, too.

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Kohler starts to court Sally, as a way to infiltrate the stage line and use Cleveland to attack the railroad.
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When Roy finds out that Kohler is writing Sally poetry, Roy realizes Kohler may be 'Black Bart'.

In an unusual scene, Kohler is playing piano for Sally, and Roy sings along, sort of at Kohler, using phrases from one of 'Black Bart's' crime scene poems!!
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Songs bring us to the missing five minutes. IMDB lists two songs for NEVADA CITY. The above song, 'Stars Over The Prairie' and 'Prairie Serenade', which is missing.

A good spot for a song is where we see Roy, Gabby, and Billy Lee, riding on the stage, right before an exciting scene where they race Crehan's locomotive to a crossing.
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Of course this is another Roy Rogers crime spree. Reckless endangerment, risking a catastrophe, and endangering a minor.

Note in the above montage, Billy Lee trips and falls while Gabby is ranting at Crehan and Roy picks up Billy without missing a beat. Actors always keep going. Only the director can yell, "Cut!".

Back to repeat offender Roy. Later Roy and Gabby are arrested for interfering with law officers and for being in cahoots with 'Black Bart'. And, of course, they break jail!

With Sid Saylor in jail.
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Pierre Watkin brought to justice.
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There's more train action in the finale with Roy's double jumping from stunt Trigger to the moving train and running across the tops of the rail cars. Real Roy may be in there too.

At obscuretrainmovies.wordpress.com, I found information that the train, in this movie, was built in 1893 and was owned by Paramount Studios and rented to Republic for NEVADA CITY. In 2018, the train is still on display at a train museum in Carson City, Nevada.

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Roy and Trigger with a different train.
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Nevada City- cut YouTube. Wrong Republic logo, Hollywood Television Logo at end, but has end credits.
 
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Mentioned above that 'Black Bart' tangled with Matt Clark, Railroad Detective. Matt Clark was the character played by Jim Davis in Republic Studios Emmy winning 39 episode series, 1954-55, STORIES OF THE CENTURY.

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Jim had two partners. Mary Castle .
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And Kristine Miller.
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Being a Republic production STORIES OF THE CENTURY used stock footage from other Republic westerns, including those of Roy Rogers. In fact the smoke stack train scene from NEVADA CITY is often shown as part of the of the opening montage of STORIES OF THE CENTURY.

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Here's a picture of Roy and Adele Mara, at a ground-breaking for Pioneer Town. A western movie town started by western bad-guy actor Dick Curtis, (he's behind Roy.), with investors like Roy Rogers and Gene Autry.
Also in the picture is actor David Bruce with the woman holding the black hat. And is that George Tobias, next to Roy? Were they investors or making a movie nearby? The open shirt man on the left looks like Neville Brand.
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Not RR but the only western star I ever met was John Calvert. We had lunch. But I met him as a magician. Just thought I add something today.





Fascinating guy. Not only was he a stage magician traveling in a large yacht in the islands doing shows with a bunch of women but he was also a pilot - race card driver - and movie star is both westerns and he was the last Falcon.
 

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I don't think I have seen the John Calvert Falcons. I was able to find one of them on YouTube.

I am in the mood to watch the WAC Falcon sets and other classic movie series detectives. Just yesterday, my year 2000 VHS of "Bulldog Drummond"-1929 , with Ronald Colman, caught my eye and I watched it. Now I'll have to dig out my DVD-R boot of the second Colman Drummond along with the John Howard Drummonds I have on Alpha and Mill Creek. They are harder to get to, so I next watched the WAC double feature of Colman's Raffles and the remake with David Niven. I have to check, did WAC release the two Colman Drummonds?

John Calvert's bio. Levitating his lovely assistant, and wife, Tammy.
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I see John Calvert's first movie was, "Bombardier"-1943. "Bombardier" was the first appearance of the 'Chito Rafferty' character, created by Richard Martin. "Chito Rafferty" started showing up in RKO westerns, with Robert Mitchum, Richard Warren, and Tim Holt. "Chito" is my favorite side-kick after Gabby Hayes, but I don't have a list.

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There seems to have been more magic around, in the past. Remember the Saturday morning show with Mark Wilson, who also had a lovely wife and assistant, Nani Darnell.

Note the 'K' in Alla-K-Azam matches the Kellog's 'K'. Below Mark, Nani, and their son, Mike Wilson.
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I see The Amazing Randi died this week. Randi was all over TV talk shows in the early 1970s. Randi was known as a debunker of psychics, like Uri Geller, who was also all over TV, bending spoons, with the power of his mind.

The Amazing Randi.
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I remember reading Randi's books and those of, magician, Walter Gibson, who had a series of true crime stories books. "The Fine Art of Swindling", "The Fine Art of Murder". etc.

Gibson, as Maxwell Grant, wrote most of the 325 or so original Shadow stories, that appeared in "The Shadow" pulp magazine. In the pulp stories The Shadow often used magic tricks to overcome the weed of crime.

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Smiley Burnette, as 'Frog Millhouse, had the power to cloud men's minds in the Roy Rogers movie, KING OF THE COWBOYS-1943.
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I don't think I have seen the John Calvert Falcons. I was able to find one of them on YouTube.

Smiley Burnette, as 'Frog Millhouse, had the power to cloud men's minds in the Roy Rogers movie, KING OF THE COWBOYS-1943.
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I will warn you. I really thought a lot of John but his Falcon movies stink pretty bad. They were all made in about a day each. The first one has been described as having the worst score of any movie.

Lot's of magicians in movies and TV. Milton Berle was a great card guy. Cary Grant - Orson Wells - Chester Morris - Johnny Carson - Harry Anderson - Tony Curtis are just some of the names that jump to mind. There are more.








And to keep the thread on topic
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