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Roy Rogers in TruColor and Uncut

Discussion in 'DVD' started by Richard--W, Dec 6, 2010.

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    I guess, for Roy, it is best to stay away from Grapevine, then.

    There was a nice upload of HELLFIRE, on YouTube for years. It is gone now. The Paramount restored version was part of that Museum of Modern Art showing of Republic movies this past Summer. See Posts # 166, 167,168. I am disappointed Dave Kehr didn't do a follow up video for the second group of Republics they honored.
     
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    SAN FERNANDO VALLEY- 1944, B&W, 74 minutes.
    b (1).
    Uncut from Sinister Cinema on DVD-R and the old Republic Home Video VHS.
    The VHS is a little lighter and looks better, but the Sinister, while darker looking, is the most complete. The Sinister, starts with a fanfare as the bell tower logo is shown and we can see the bell moving and hear it ringing and leads to the theatrical title card, and has the proper ending and technical credits., but without the end Tower logo between them.
    The RHV VHS starts with a RHV color Eagle logo and the Bell Tower logo is joined in progress and we don't hear all the rings plus it leads to a syndicated title card. It also has the proper ending and technical credits but no end Tower logo. Be careful!, if buying the Sinister as they released an earlier 53 minute edition with an MCA logo.

    GritTV is showing SAN FERNANDO VALLEY on Sunday March 10, at 6 A.M. , eastern, in a two hour slot, followed by the nice but too greenish print of 67 minute TWILIGHT IN THE SIERRAS, in a 90 minute slot. So they both should be shown uncut. The two movies repeat, twice, later in the month.

    Dale and, perky sister, Jean Porter live on their grandfather's ranch. Dale and Gramps fire The Pioneers and two other hands for singing on the job with Jean Porter.
    b (2).
    Gramps is played by Andrew Tombes, who I think is under the Santa beard in Post # 232 Tombes was the naughty politician in DON"T FENCE ME IN.

    Dale hires a crew of female rodeo riders and glamour girls, led by Dot Farley to replace the Pioneers.
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    The cowgirl sitting on Roy's right is Helen Talbot, who co-starred in some Republic westerns and serials.
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    Roy, passing through, on his way back to the San Fernando Valley, spots his pal, Ed Gargan, and tries to convince him to come back to the home ranch.

    They run into Dale and, later, Hank Bell, who is always seen driving stages and wagons in westerns.
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    Roy is smitten with Dale and Jean is smitten with Roy.
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    Roy and Ed follow Dale back home and Gramps hires them to be cooks. Of course they can't cook and sexist, lost men in the kitchen, humor follows.
    b (11).
    The crime story is instigated by Jean, when she gets the idea to discredit the female hands so Gramps will hire the Pioneers and the other two guys back. She wants them to steal some horses and bring them back, when the cowgirls fail to find them.

    The other two guys, Pierce Lyden and LeRoy Mason, along with Kenne Duncan, decide to steal the horses for real.

    Meanwhile, The Pioneers, distract everyone by stopping by to serenade the girls, poolside early one evening.
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    Eventually, Roy and Ed, capture the horse thieves, with the help of Trigger. Trigger shows his stuff when he saves Roy from Kenne Duncan, in the nick of time.

    SAN FERNANDO VALLEY is a musical comedy and romance with plenty of singing, dancing, and specialty acts. There is still a lot of action, with fights, horse riding, wagon stunts, and even a sulky race. Loads of fun!
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    Wide-eyed Jean Porter is a fun actress, who I first noticed in a couple of those Hal Roach service comedies with William Tracy and Joe Sawyer. She wrote letters to and wrote some articles for Classic Images. She was married to the director, Edward Dmytryk. I think her part was written with Mary Lee in mind, but Lee had married and retired, after SONG OF NEVADA.

    Jean Porter:
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    YouTube: Possibly enhanced , 74 min. upload from The Film Detective, looks like it is from the same source as the print used on the RHV VHS.
     
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    Jean Porter is always a welcome presence in a film. I've been wanting to see a trio of movies she starred in for Columbia in 1947, "Sweet Genevieve," "Little Miss Broadway," and "Two Blondes and a Redhead." All three were produced by Sam Katzman and directed by Arthur Dreifuss. Being Katzman items, they are admittedly going to be pretty threadbare cheapies, but I'd like to see them all the same, especially for Porter. Each film also featured a somewhat third-tier big band of the day. The first had Al Donahue and his orchestra, the second had Jerry Wald, and the third had Tony Pastor (who'd been an early fixture in Artie Shaw's band in the late-1930s).

    There was another film that followed, "Mary Lou" (1948), but it starred an actress named Joan Barton, instead of Porter. I'm not familiar with Barton at all. But it was also a Katzman-Dreifuss affair, and featured as its named band, Frankie Carle and his orchestra. That seemed to spell the end of that semi-series of musical-comedy cheapies. Although later in that year, and perhaps in a similar vein, Katzman and Dreifuss put together a couple of films starring Gloria Jean, "Manhattan Angel" (1948) and "I Surrender Dear" (1949). None of these films have tended to circulate much. Never made it to the Sony Archive 'mod' line, unfortunately. So many Columbia B's out there, and they only got to the tip of things. No Jinx Falkenburg titles made it either. Nor any of those Ken Curtis and Hoosier Hot Shots things. I sure miss that line of discs.
     
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    Sunday's GritTV broadcast, of SAN FERNANDO VALLEY, is the best looking print I have see on this title. It has nice contrast and is not as dark as the RHV VHS, or the Sinister DVD-R, or the Film Detective upload at YouTube.

    It was a full 74 minute theatrical print with the proper Independence Hall bell tower logo with the bell ringing and swinging, leading to the theatrical title card. Like the other three versions, noted above, the GritTV print was missing the tower logo that should be between the last frame of the action and the technical credits.

    It had this Paramount logo, at the end, which I understand started in 2002 or so.
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    I think this is only the second time, I have seen a Paramount logo on the Roy Rogers movies showing on GritTV. It's a funny mix of Rogers movies showing on GritTV, condition and source wise.

    Here's a clip of Jean Porter in TWO BLONDES AND A REDHEAD. This sounds like she's really singing. I am not sure it's her real voice in SAN FERNANDO VALLEY.



    SAN FERNANDO VALLEY will show on GritTV, again on Wed. 3/20 at 3:30 PM to 5:30 PM, and Thur. 3/21 at 12:30 AM to 2:30 AM, Eastern.
     
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    SONG OF NEVADA-1944, B&W, 72 or 75 min.?
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    I have the Sinister Cinema DVD-R. It is 72 minutes and is the longest version, I think is, available. It has the bell tower logo with the bell moving and ringing. Oddly, the logo is followed by both the theatrical title card and the syndicated title card. It has the proper THE END, and the moving and ringing bell tower logo before the technical credits. The print is dark, but is still highly recommended for the length, music, and charming Roy and Dale chemistry.
    a (7).
    Dale's dad, Thurston Hall, goes to New York, to bring her back. He finds her unwilling to return and engaged to John Eldredge, playing one of his smooth fortune hunter types.

    Thurston Hall, Lloyd Corrigan, Roy, Dale, Mary Lee:
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    Roy, Forrest Taylor, Dale, John Eldredge, Ken Carson:
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    Hall heads back to Nevada, in a small passenger plane. The plane develops engine trouble and lands near Roy and his cattle drive. Hall misses the plane, when it takes off, and stays with Roy.
    a (2).
    Many days later, when they reach a town, Hall and Roy discover that the plane crashed and Hall is believed to be dead. Finding out that Dale is, now, back at the ranch, Hall decides to stay dead. He convinces Roy to help him break up Dale and Eldredge and keep her at the ranch.

    a (8).
    Roy is up against Eldredge, who wants to liquidate the ranch, and the ranch foreman, LeRoy Mason, again, who is selling ranch horses, on the side, for himself.

    Roy, with a Masked Man and an Indian, (no, not them):
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    Roy with Mary Lee:
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    SONG OF NEVADA is the last movie for Mary Lee, who married and retired. She's a fun singer and performer, and she can really sell a song. I posted this clip a few pages back. Here it is again:






    There is a 4 plus minute musical review and finale plus plenty of music all through the movie. The action consists of some horse riding stunts, a few fights, and a stagecoach race with Roy driving against Kenne Duncan, again.

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    Found at the Bob Nolan site: a couple of sheet music books and a social media page written by Captain Bijou, Earl Blair, talking about what is missing from the 72 minute version of SONG OF NEVADA. He says the records he found show it has been 72 minutes since 1945, but may have been originally shot as 75 min.
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    Just found a YouTube upload of, a full theatrical print of SONG OF NEVADA that is brighter looking than the Sinister version. It is about 25 seconds longer, too., but the sound track has some oddities. Wonder if it is available from another PD company? Anybody recognize the logo?



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    I thought I'd post that a few of the Republic Pictures restorations by Paramount have been made available for streaming rental and purchase in SD and HD. Both iTunes and Amazon have two great Republic Trucolor westerns available: THE OUTCAST (directed by William Witney) with John Derek and HELLFIRE (directed by R.G. Springsteen). The quality is excellent. Other Republic/Paramount titles are FLAME OF THE ISLANDS with Yvonne DeCarlo, THE ATOMIC KID with Mickey Rooney and a number of John Wayne films.

    Paramount has previously made available some George Pal sci-fi films upgraded to HD like WAR OF THE WORLDS and WHEN WORLDS COLLIDE. These titles and some of the newer Republic upgrades are only available to stream and have not been released on physical media yet.
     
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    THE YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS-1944, B&W, 69 minutes.
    d (1).
    Available in a full uncut theatrical print from Sinister Cinema on VHS and DVD-R. I only have the VHS. It looks soft and dark. Anyone have the DVD-R? Is it better looking? (The edited versions on YouTube look brighter.) GritTV has it scheduled for Saturday, April 13, at 6 AM to 7:30 AM, Eastern. Wonder what shape that showing will be in?

    d (15).
    Dale is performing on George Cleveland's showboat, "The Yellow Rose".

    d (5).

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    Dale's father, Harry Shannon, breaks jail, after being convicted of armed robbery. Insurance investigator, Roy joins the showboat cast, disguised as a singing cowboy, to spy on Dale. When Shannon contacts Dale, Roy swoops in for the arrest and to recover the lost stolen money.

    d (3).
    Dale and Shannon convince Roy to help them prove Shannon's innocence.
    d (2).

    Harry Shannon with Roy:
    d (4).

    But, who could be the real crooks? Roy looks for clues and suspects.

    Not Hal Taliaferro, again? William Haade? Maybe Weldon Hayburn?
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    Grant Withers? No, he's too nice a guy.
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    Couldn't be Tom London, he's the Sheriff.
    d (7).

    Weldon Hayburn, Tom London, Roy, William Haade:
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    William Haade, he usually plays tough hombres. But he's Roy's sidekick here.
    d (11).
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    Lots of singing and dancing in the showboat setting.
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    Trigger even has some competition:
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    SONG OF ARIZONA-1946, B&W, 67-68 minutes.
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    I have the Alpha DVD, which runs 67:42 minutes. It's a theatrical print with the proper title card and THE END. but it is missing the fore and aft tower logo.

    It's a dark and rough looking print, but recommended for completeness.

    Gabby is running a ranch for troubled and homeless boys, played mostly by The Robert Mitchell Boy Choir.
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    Roy and The Pioneers are radio singers. Roy is an old grad of Gabby's ranch and comes for a visit.
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    Troubled boy, Tommy Cook is visited by his dad, the murderous outlaw, Lyle Talbot.
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    Lawman, Ed Cobb is on Talbot's trail.
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    The posse mortally wounds Talbot. Talbot tells Gabby and Roy about his honest investments, so they can get them to Tommy and his sister, Dale.
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    Roy goes to the big city to check on this and find Dale. Dale is a night club singer and agrees to reunite with Tommy at the ranch.
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    Dale tells Roy she thinks Tommy is holding Talbot's hidden loot.
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    Hef….I mean, Gabby throws a big Halloween themed party, complete with dancing girls, for the boys.
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    The remaining members of Talbot's gang, led by Dick Curtis, crash the party just as Tommy is turning his dad's loot in to the Sheriff.
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    The gang escapes, with Roy and his gang in pursuit.
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    There's a pretty neat horse stunt, where Roy (stuntman) leaps from Trigger, (or maybe stunt Trigger), to the back of the outlaw's horse. They fight and Roy gets pushed down, and unfastens the saddle cinch and they both tumble off the horse. This stunt appears in other Republic westerns and even shows up years later in the Disney ZORRO series, as the Canutts worked on ZORRO too. In the Zorro stunt the bad guy is played by stuntman, Henry Wills, who is in many of the Roy Rogers westerns, too. I wonder if Wills could be the hero or villain, performing the stunt in SONG OF ARIZONA?

    Lyle Talbot was a minor heart throb and lead actor in many 30s movies, but we remember him for playing Ozzie's neighbor Joe Randolph.



    Watching OZZIE AND HARRIET, with all the snacking they do on the show, always makes Roy hungry.
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    YouTube: uncut SONG OF ARIZONA with intro tower logo.



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    "song of Arizona" (1946) is one I sure haven't seen in a long time. I don't even think I have a copy of it. Always strange to see Dick Curtis outside a Columbia production. Considering how often he appeared there, providing villainy in their two-reelers and their Charles Starrett westerns, you'd think he actually lived there on the lot. Like the aforementioned William Haade, he could vacillate between ornery, ill-tempered baddies and a somewhat more comically lunkheaded type of villain.

    I've always liked Edmund Cobb a lot. Of course, he played just about every kind of role in b-westerns. Good guy or bad guy. Townsman, sheriff or bartender. He was also a star of silent westerns, albeit a somewhat third-tier one. He starred in a batch of western features released through Arrow around 1923-25, culminating with a serial co-starring Ben Wilson's often leading-lady, Neva Gerber, "Days of '49" (1925), of which the feature version survives. Then Cobb moved over to Universal and starred in many of their western two-reelers. Grapevine Video has a nice little collection of three or four of these, derived from Kodascope home-movie prints. Lucky that these survive, because I don't think many of Universal's other two-reel western stars (Fred Gilman, Newton House, etc.) have much of anything left extant. Cobb's shorts must have been reasonably popular, since Universal graduated him back to feature-film status, in a series of movies in 1927-28, co-starring him with a dog named Dynamite. Alpha Video has the only one I know of that circulates, "Fangs of Destiny" (1927), which is an okay little item, although hardly seems to have enough plot for a two-reeler itself, much less a feature film.

    Tommy Cook is still around, of course. One of our last living links to not only movie serials (like Republic's fine "Jungle Girl" from 1941), but to 1940s-era old time radio, where he held long stints as Little Beaver in "Red Ryder" (opposite Reed Hadley), as Alexander on the "Blondie" radio series alongside Penny Singleton and Arthur Lake, and also for a good while as Junior on "Life of Riley." Cook has made a lot of appearances at nostalgia/western shows, and is a font of fascinating anecdotes...from his hosting a radio event before FDR, to his work as the villainous kid in "Tarzan and the Leopard Woman" (1946), where he had a unique encounter with, ahem, actress Acquanetta's bosom. Which, I will not go into any further. A great guy to talk with, though. I vaguely recall him mentioning "Song of Arizona," but I can't remember any specifics. The film he seems most proud of is "The Vicious Years" (1950), in which he played an Italian war-orphan turned juvenile delinquent. I have a copy of it, and he does indeed give a fine performance.
     
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    I enjoyed those weirdly comic outlaws Dick Curtis played in some of the Wild Bill Elliot westerns. Bud Geary and Roy Barcroft played it funny too, in my favorite Elliott 'Red Ryder', LONE TEXAS RANGER-1945.
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    Ed Cobb looks and sounds, somewhat to me, like John Hamilton. Yet as you say, Bert, Cobb played all types, while Hamilton played more sedate authority figures, except for his explosive Perry White. It was fun to see Cobb and Hamilton side by side in BELLS OF CORONADO.
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    Cobb even played a Mountie with Tom Tyler in CLANCY OF THE MOUNTED.
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    Say, Lyle Talbot played a Mountie boss in GUNFIGHTERS OF THE NORTHWEST with Jock Mahoney and Clayton Moore.
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    Ever since I saw Tommy Cook in TARZAN AND THE LEOPARD WOMAN, I have never trusted him.
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    I dug out my MGM/RKO Tarzan discs, originally to see an extra short, RODEO DOUGH, with Roy Rogers, Sally Payne and Mary Treen.


    I wound of watching them and just finished the Scotts. I enjoy the 40s cheesecake on display in, LEOPARD WOMAN and TARZAN AND THE AMAZONS.

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    GritTV will be showing, UNDER CALIFORNIA STARS-1948, a Trucolor, that references 70 min uncut, on Saturday, April 6, 1 PM to 2:30 PM Eastern.

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    Don't know what GritTV will show. UNDER CALIFORNIA STARS runs 70 min. in pretty nice color in most of the PD versions I have seen. But the counter runs to 72 min on my Mill Creek copy. I never noticed any additional scenes in the Mill Creek version, but I have never compared it side by side with a 70 min version. Believe it or not, I try not to be obsessive. So I'd recommend getting the Mill Creek and or the VCI double feature with BELLS OF SAN ANGELO-1947.
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    In UNDER CALIFORNIA STARS, Roy plays Roy Rogers, the movie star. It is Roy's tenth anniversary in pictures and he heads home, to his ranch, to rest.
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    The ranch is being run by Andy Devine, with the help of The Pioneers and Jane Frazee.
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    There are horse thieves in the area, and they decide to kidnap Trigger, with the reluctant help of, kid, Michael Chapin.
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    George Lloyd, Wade Crosby, and House Peters, Jr.
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    I find the scene at the end with Roy and the gang leader very interesting in the way it's framed and the way Roy plays it.

    Roy sings a song called, 'Dust', which he sang in his first starring movie, UNDER WESTERN SKIES-1938.
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    YouTube: UNDER CALIFORNIA STARS runs 72 min. with Republic Eagle logos fore and aft.


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    GritTV is showing, probably the cut B&W version of BELLS OF SAN ANGELO on Tuesday, April 9, 3 AM to 4:30 AM. It is worth a look, It contains a short additional scene,, at the point where Dale arrives on the bus, that does not appear in any of the longer color versions I have seen.
     
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    Cute photos with Roy and Jane Frazee. Speaking of Frazee, I've always been surprised that the zippy little b-comedy she starred in, "Rosie the Riveter" (1944-Republic) hasn't been brought out of the mothballs and made more available, considering its highly-commercial title. It's a good, genial little film, one of Republic's better wartime comedy efforts. Also features a nice supporting role for Vera Vague (Barbara Jo Allen), toned down a bit from her raucous Jules White directed shorts from Columbia. Although, there was another film that Frazee appeared in at Republic, alongside Dennis O'Keefe, that I have a long-time affection for, "Moonlight Masquerade" (1942). I still have my off-air VHS recording of it, which I made back in 1984. It's a fun, fairly broad comedy (with an achingly common plotline), with a memorably swingy, eccentric-dance number by Betty Kean (Jane Kean's sister) aboard a passenger train.

    Because of these films (along with the Roy Rogers titles), I tend to associate Frazee with Republic, but she was actually far busier and spent more time I believe at Universal. Maybe even Columbia too. At the latter studio she was in "Kansas City Kitty" (1944) with Joan Davis and bandleader Bob Crosby, but it's a thin, unimpressive affair as I recall. Still have a tape of it around here somewhere. Been meaning to take a new look at it, as I'm curious as to how much (if at all) it utilized the title tune, which had been a popular ditty from the late-1920s. Of Jane Frazee's many wartime B-musicals I'd like to see are "Swing in the Saddle" (1944-Columbia) and "Rhythm of the Islands" (1943-Universal). Probably pretty minor stuff, but I'd like to give them a look-see.
     
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    I remember Jane Frazee being mentioned enthusiastically, by Art Carney, as Ed Norton, in a HONEYMOONERS episode.

    YouTube has some Jane Frazee movies, including "Rosie the Riveter" and "Moonlight Masquerade", and a couple others with "Moonlight" in the title. I guess it was a series.

    More Jane and Roy from UNDER CALIFORNIA STARS.
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    This scene, below, with the Pioneers does not appear in any of the UCS versions I have. I think it was part of the sequence where Andy Devine and The Pioneers sing Roy that 'King of the Cowboys' song. You can notice the cut after they greet each other. With that thing on Roy's head it must be some kind of joke scene. Maybe it never made it into the final cut.
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    The UNDER CALIFORNIA STARS print shown on GritTV, today, was an edited theatrical print. It was softer looking, brighter with less shadow, and greener in parts, than the versions used for DVDs from Mill Creek and VCI. The MC and VCI DVDs are darker, but sharper looking and the blues are bluer and the other colors more natural looking to me.
     
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    Yesterday's GritTV showing of THE YELLOW ROSE OF TEXAS, at first glance, was a complete theatrical print. The print was soft and darkish like the Sinister Cinema print, but better framed, with more picture info on all four sides, and a little cleaner with darker darks and brighter whites.

    But, looking closer, the GritTV print has some odd edits. There is a brief scene missing, where Roy enters a bar/café and enters a phone booth. On the Grit broadcast the scene starts with Roy in the phone booth.

    At the beginning, the Republic logo and opening credits are sped up and riverboat style banjo music is played instead of "The Yellow Rose of Texas". The same banjo tune is also played at the end of the movie, over the technical credits, on the Sinister print. The Grit Print shortens the time the end logo appears and plays the fanfare that plays over the logo, over both the logo and the technical credits, instead of the banjo tune.

    GritTV will be showing UNDER NEVADA SKIES-1946, on Wed. April 17, 3:00 PM to 4:30 PM, Eastern Time. (see post #278)

    It was always fun to see cowboy stars, in costume and on horseback, plus other celebs, appear in parades. (The clip is narrated by Will Hutchins.)

     
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    The second video I wanted to load above would not show and trying in a second post did not work either. The title of the other video at YouTube is "Hollywood Christmas Parade of Stars-1960", if you want to take a look. The pics of Roy, Dale and Red, below, are not in that video.



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  15. Message #315 of 361 Apr 19, 2019
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    Bob Gu

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    Grit's broadcast of UNDER NEVADA SKIES-1946 was a good looking well framed theatrical print. It clocked in at about 67 minutes vs the 68:46 minute version on YouTube and my old tape at 68:30 minutes. The Grit print trimmed non dialog scenes, slightly, somebody mounting a horse, walking down a hallway, or Gabby mugging. It had the proper logos, theatrical title card and THE END. A B&W 1950s Paramount logo followed the final Republic Eagle logo.
    Color version of 50s logo on the Grit print:
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    Saturday, 4/20, there are four Columbia Technicolor B-westerns, with interesting casts, showing on GetTV from 1:00 PM to 8:00 PM Eastern Time.

    1) STAGE TO TUCSON-1950. For years this was around only in a B&W version. Oddly THE PHANTOM STAGECOACH-1957, which was in B&W, used action scenes from STAGE TO TUCSON. PHANTOM has been shown on GetTV, in the past.
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    2) MONTANA TERRITORY-1952. Look for unmasked Clayton Moore.
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    3) AL JENNINGS OF OKLAHOMA-1951. Rare to see Dan Duryea starring. And it is nice to see Gale Storm in color!
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    Note: the Spanish poster for the original release shows a Technicolor banner but the reprint release poster erases it, indicating a B&W re-release.
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    4) CONQUEST OF COCHISE-1953.
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    CONQUEST OF COCHISE and THE PHANTOM STAGECOACH were released by Sony MOD. STAGE TO TUCSON and AL JENNINGS were released in R-2.
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  16. Message #316 of 361 Apr 28, 2019
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    Bob Gu

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    SONG OF TEXAS-1943, B&W 69 minutes.
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    I have the Sinister Cinema, 69 minute, version of this, on VHS. The print seems to be combined from different sources as the picture and sound quality varies, throughout. The SC version begins with a Republic Tower logo and a syndicated title card and ends with the correct THE END, logo, and end credits. Roy Rogers gets a before the title single credit card. I think this is the only time they did this. Prior to this Roy shared billing with the side-kick. Post SONG OF TEXAS, beginning with SILVER SPURS-1943, Roy and Trigger are listed first after the title card, with Trigger's designation as "The smartest horse in movies". Trigger did not have onscreen billing before SILVER SPURS.
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    The movie opens with Roy, Trigger, and The Pioneers visiting a Children's Hospital.
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    Roy and the Pioneers are rodeo stars working with a rodeo run by Barton MacLane and, brother, William Haade.
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    The brothers are mean and shady and Roy and The Pioneers quit them to start their own rodeo. MacLane and Haade don't want the competition from another show and start a campaign of dirty tricks against Roy and The Pioneers. Plus the brothers want them back in their rodeo.

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    Roy wants to help Harry Shannon, a down on his luck former famous rodeo star, and takes him to the ranch Roy owns with The Pioneers. Shannon's daughter, Sheila Ryan, comes to town, to visit, expecting to find her father a successful rancher. So Roy takes Ryan and her pal Arline Judge to the ranch and pretends that Shannon is his partner in the ranch.
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    Ryan is suspicious of Roy and the supposed handshake agreement concerning the ranch. So she gets Roy and Shannon to make it legal with signed papers. Roy and Shannon go along, thinking they can just tear up the papers after Ryan leaves town.
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    Ryan sells Shannon's share to MacLane and Haade. Although the sale is probably illegal, Roy and the brothers decide to have a winner take all wagon race to decide who gets what.
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    Of course, after overcoming more dirty tricks, Roy wins the race and gets the ranch back. Another Rogers movie where the bad guys don't seem to have been arrested for the illegal and dangerous stuff they did during the story...arson, horse stealing and attempted murder.

    Sheila Ryan was married to, Gene Autry side-kick, Pat Buttram.
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    Arline Judge is famous for having been married eight times. One of Judge's husbands was also married to Lana Turner, who was also married eight times.
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    Ah yes, Barton MacLane once again providing villainy. Around the same time as the Rogers film, MacLane also starred in a little PRC flick, "Man of Courage" (1943), which he also wrote. Maybe a dream project of his, because it also starred his actress-wife Charlotte Wynters. The film didn't impress me much, though. Typically draggy and super-cheap PRC stuff. However, I do rather like Charlotte Wynters. I remember her as making an appealing lady in a late-1930s Hopalong Cassidy film. She was also good in "Cipher Bureau" (1938), a nice little Grand National release whose plot and direction were adept enough to have been a larger studio's b-product. I don't think Wynters made too many films, though, as she was a bit on the older side, and couldn't really get away with being the youthful ingenue type. She got a relatively late start in films, it seems. But I like her quite a bit and keep an eye out for her film appearances.

    A few decades back, I ran into an old early-1930s portrait photo of my (late) grandmother. She looked very much like Arline Judge, and I told her so, thinking she'd like the comparison to a movie star. But my grandmother winced a bit, as it turned out she wasn't too big a fan of Judge's. Indeed, I think Arline Judge was better as a comical sidekick (sort of a prettier Pert Kelton) than as leading lady, as her sarcastic-sounding, monotone line-deliveries don't always quite seem to befit a leading lady.

    Nice shots of Mrs. Buttram!
     
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    I never thought of Barton MacLane as a lead, but I guess he was.
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    Some new MacLane releases from WAC. along with the old.
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    I liked Charlotte Wynters in her Hoppys, too, but didn't remember her name.
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    Charlotte Wynters, with John Litel and Bonita Granville.
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  19. Message #319 of 361 Apr 29, 2019
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    Not Westerns but Barton MacLane shared the lead in an entire series:
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    ADDED - Sorry missed your pic of the Torchy Blane Series first time through. Barton did a fine job as the sometimes policeman sometimes boyfriend in this fun series. Kinda an opposite to all the heavies that he played.

    Wanted to add - I'm not a huge western fan but very much enjoy the love in this thread. Great reading - keep it up.
     
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    Agree! Just the artwork and pics alone so far will keep me coming back for more.
     

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