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Rotel RSP-1066 mini-review...Compared to a Yammie RX-V3200 for pre-amp... (1 Viewer)

Levesque

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I don't know why but we don't see much talk about this pre-pro anymore, so I've decide to post a "mini-review", because it's a direct comparaison between an almost top of the line receiver and a dedicated pre-pro. I see alot of post on this "hot subject": good receiver or real pre-pro, is there a difference?? For me, it's a firm YES...

I've just replace a Yamaha RX-V3200 that I was using for pre-amp with a Rotel RSP-1066, 2 days ago. I'm using this with a Rotel RMB-1095 (5X200) + Rotel RB-1050 (2x70) + 4x Paradigm Studio-40 + Studio-CC + 2x Studio-20 + Servo-15.

I was having a problem with a bad white noise from all speakers when using the Yammie in this configuration. Swithching to the RSP-1066 solve my problem. Silence bliss in quiet part. Case closed.

The first BIG difference, an in your face difference, is the resolution of details that I got now with the Rotel. Listening to LOTR again (like the 10th time!!), a film that I know everything about, is revealing so much little details I was not aware of before, it's almost frightening. The sound is clearer, cleaner, and really crisp. The Yammie was hidding a lot of details.

The other improvement is the sound-stage. After 10 minutes of listening, I tought I did'nt plug my center channel to the Rotel...but the fronts are now blending so well with the center that I can't tell where the sound is coming from!! With the Yammie, I was always trying to "blend" to front stage, moving the speakers, etc, but everything coming from the center was always really directionnal and distracting. With the Rotel, I finally got this perfect blending of the 3 front speaker!!

Listening to DVD-Audio is a totally different experience with the Rotel. Again, the resolution of details is really better. I was not that impress with DVD-Audio, and not "attracted" to it (I own 25 DVD-Audio) and wasn't coming back to it. But now, I will go back to my collection, because, NOW, it's quite an experience!! You want a concrete fact? I gave the bottle to my newborn (10 days old) listening to Mozart Piano Concerto 21, and she fell asleep after 2 onces only, and usually she drinks 5 onces non-stop!! That's a testimony!!

I know that people talk alot of problems with bass management with the Rotel RSP-1066 on different forum. But I don't see any difference in the bass from what the Yammie was giving me. I'm using a Denon DVD-3800 that is doing BM in multi-channel, so I think it's canceling this issue, or helping it so much that it's impossible for me to spot. My DVD-Audio experience is full of bass, like with the Yammie, not to much, not less. I think the problem is for people using full range speakers, and it's not my case. But I don't ear any difference, so case closed for me!

The only "drawback", a minor one, is that I don't find the settings and the remote really intuitive. I had to read the manual closely with the Rotel, and even do some "trial and error" to set everything, compare to the Yammie, that is a lot easier to set for first use. The Yammie remote is easier to use to. But for me it's not a real problem, but for Joe-six-pack trying to make everything works with both will probably have an easier time with the Yammie then the Rotel. The Yammie is a bit more "user friendly"...

Sorry for the long post. Everything here is my humble opinion.

I'm now a firm believer that a receiver, almost a top of the line for Yamaha, cannot compare to a real pre-pro. Maybe Denon or another company would be different, but Yamaha can't compete with the Rotel RSP-1066 IN MY SYSTEM. Maybe with different speakers it would be different to. But IN MY SYSTEM, I'm now in complete ecstacy withy the Rotel, and I WAS NOT with the Yammie. The sound I was researching was just not there.

For people out there that dream of a Anthem AVM20 but can't afford it, do yourself a favor, and go buy a RSP-1066. it's the best price/value on the market right now, and at this price (I've paid 1500$ cdn) it's a steal!! Don't tell Rotel they could sell this unit for double this price! Shut!!!
 

BrentPollard

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1500.00 Cdn wow I thought I got a deal at 1800.00 Cdn.
I can't compare my 1066 to what I owned previously as it was a Sony GX900ES prologic reciever. I will agree that the front 3 channels blend beautifully. I have PSB Stratus Silvers LF&LR with the C6 center and you are right, with the right mix the 3 front speakers are seamless.;)
 

Joe

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Thanks for the review.

A couple of questions for you. Did you happen to find the 3200 thin in the midrange area? I had the 2200 connected to my Paradigm 60s and just could not even stand it. I did however have a Yamaha 995 that sounded much better. (maybe the 2200 was a bad unit).

Anyhow, since I have floor/full range speakers in the front, I'm wondering if the bass mgt will be an issue. I actually did like the options on the Yamaha where it let you set the bass at either on/off/both. Does the rotel do that as well and does it work properly? I ask because I have seen a few posts where they say the bass mgt does not work as expected.

Thanks again.
 

DanaA

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That is one Hell of a deal Levesque. What color did you get? Silver and black or black? I have the 1066 and, like you, the double bass issue hasn't been a problem for me. I don't have DVDA hooked up yet, but have been just lazy in this regard as I don't have any DVDA discs yet. Glad you're enjoying it as much as I, and many other Rotel users, are.
 

Levesque

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Bob, are you sure you don't mean till the end of the year?? A full year is too much for me!!

It's the first time I really like my system, after a lot of upgrades. I think Rotel deserve better credit for this pre-amp. It's an awesome product.

Joe, I'm at work now, but I will do further testing on the bass. But tonight, I will enjoy Riding with the king in DVD-Audio, while giving a bottle to my newborn... Ah, that's life...
 

RobertSchaez

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Sounds like you've put together a great setup. However, you can't expect a $1500 MSRP receiver's preamp to compare to a Rotel pure pre/pro costing more than the entire Yamaha, can you? Just a thought...
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Levesque

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Sorry Robert, but the RX-V3200 cost me 500$ MORE then the Rotel when it just came out. So I think it's a fair comparison.
 

RobertSchaez

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Sorry, I didn't take into consideration the exchange rate, but here (US) both units seem to MSRP at a similar price . I would still expect that a dedicated Pre/Pro combined with a decent amp is almost always going to sound better than an all-in-one receiver package's preamp with the same amp. Nothing unexpected.
 

Levesque

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I'm completely agreeing with you here!! My intention was to inform those hesitating between using a pre-pro or using a good receiver pre-pro section with a good amp, a situation I was 6 months ago... We see a lot of posts telling them to go the receiver way, and that "they won't notice any difference". I had the 2nd receiver in line from the top for Yamaha (after the RX-Z1) in-house and was switching with the RSP-1066, both plug in the Rotel RMB-1095 and doing comparisons. It was just to tell those people hesitating, to be really careful when listening to posts here. I was ONLY comparing the pre-out of the RX-V3200 combine to a Rotel RMB-1095, to the RSP-1066 combine to the same RMB-1095. I did'nt even listen to the amp section of the Yammie!!

Maybe a RX-Z1 or a Pioneer 49TX would be a lot better then the RSP-1066, both use as pre-pro, I didn't compare them directly, so I can't know. But for MORE $$, the RX-V3200 pre-out section was really not up to the Rotel. So if someone is considering going separate, please invest in a real pre-pro, and not on a receiver with a amp section you will not even use.

That was my point. I made a mistake 6 months ago, but now I know...
 

RobertSchaez

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Sorry Lévesque,
I wasn't trying to flame your post. I am in a similar situation (RX-V3000) and would love to move up to seperates if my budget allowed. I think adding a 5 channel amp to a receiver is a good first step, not the end of the process. Glad to hear you are happy with the upgrade!
 

Levesque

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No problem Robert! The RX-V3000 is an awesome receiver. Really like those 2 more front speakers. Bad they didn't come back with those in the 3200...
If you are wandering (because I was wandering about this...I did start, like you, with a Yamaha receiver only) if a Yamaha receiver is a good match with a Rotel amp, I can tell you it is!!:D
Have a nice day.
 

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