ROSEANNE reboot — what are your thoughts? (1 Viewer)

[EricSchulz]

I watched the first two episodes tonight. I’m also watching the original on Amazon Prime. What a contrast! The new show is shrill, the majority of the humor is forced and the cast are caricatures of their former selves. There seems to be so much anger between the characters as opposed to the original when Roseanne and Dan would crack each other up despite all the problems they faced. Not going to give this much more of my time.

 

[Francois Caron]

I'll give it some time. I saw it last night. It was typical "Pilot Syndrome" where, in this case, the cast is trying to find their way back into a regular sitcom schedule after years of being off the air. I'll know for sure if the show's worth watching after the third or fourth regular episode.

 

[Jeffery_H]

Loved it and the audience it favors. The networks are shocked that such a conservative show is so high in ratings. But all anyone really cares about is MONEY so they love it too. Now if they would just bring Tim Allen's Last Man Standing back, which I wouldn't be surprised at now, then I would be even more thrilled.

 

[Stan]

Loved it and the audience it favors. The networks are shocked that such a conservative show is so high in ratings. But all anyone really cares about is MONEY so they love it too. Now if they would just bring Tim Allen's Last Man Standing back, which I wouldn't be surprised at now, then I would be even more thrilled.

Last Man Standing, living in their richy rich million dollar mansion was a joke, not surprised it was cancelled. Hard to believe Modern Family is still running, do these people have some magic money tree in their backyards? At least Roseanne is little bit more believable, living in a more normal, middle class home.

 

[disctrip]

It's garbage. Just what people like today. Barr does a good job of playing "trailer-trash"

 

[mattCR]

Last night's episode was a shocking ditch of her earlier show. This article really sums it up:

https://decider.com/2018/04/04/new-roseanne-advocates/

In between remembering their own misspent youth, Roseanne directs Jackie to the spot on the wall where their father used to hang the belt he would regularly beat them with when they misbehaved. The Harris sisters’ complicated relationship with their father was always alluded to, but here it was being made explicit. Their father used to beat them as punishment. “Let’s face it, Jackie, our family was totally screwed up,” Roseanne says. “Which is probably why I got fat and why you can’t have a decent relationship with any man.” The lesson Roseanne takes away from these memories are to be a different kind of parent for Darlene.

The tendrils of an abusive childhood were a subject often revisited on the show, always with a hard-line stance against physical punishment. This was a show that did not take kindly to abusers of any stripe. No matter how loudly and harshly Roseanne would yell at her kids, she drew a line. In the season 6 episode “The Driver’s Seat,” Roseanne impulsively spanks her pre-teen son D.J. after he took the car out and crashed it. She’s immediately wracked with guilt and ends up tearfully apologizing to D.J. She tells him she got hit when she was a kid and promises to never do it again. It’s one of the more affecting scene in the show’s history.

In the (original) series finale, as the Roseanne character reminisces about the life that she had written about, she put it plainly: “Dan and I always felt that it was our responsibility as parents to improve the lives of our children by 50% over our own. And we did. We didn’t hit our children, as we were hit. We didn’t demand their unquestioning silence.”

Here's the thing: and this isn't liberal/conservative. I've never once hit any of my kids. Not once. They grew up to be pretty good, well mannered kids. I've never had issues. Roseanne suddenly flipping where she stands on physical punishment is like rolling back one of the core concepts of the original series, where Barr would talk about how physical punishment messed her up; how there had to be a better way; etc. Now she's going after her daughter for not beating a kid after the granddaughter uses the kind of mouth you see in this show over and over and over again?

 

[JohnMor]

Last night's episode was a shocking ditch of her earlier show. This article really sums it up:

https://decider.com/2018/04/04/new-roseanne-advocates/


Here's the thing: and this isn't liberal/conservative. I've never once hit any of my kids. Not once. They grew up to be pretty good, well mannered kids. I've never had issues. Roseanne suddenly flipping where she stands on physical punishment is like rolling back one of the core concepts of the original series, where Barr would talk about how physical punishment messed her up; how there had to be a better way; etc. Now she's going after her daughter for not beating a kid after the granddaughter uses the kind of mouth you see in this show over and over and over again?

I thought maybe I was misremembering because Roseanne and Dan’s attitude struck me as very odd.

 

[Stan]

I thought maybe I was misremembering because Roseanne and Dan’s attitude struck me as very odd.

No, this one is very odd. Not at all like the original which I really enjoyed. Watched the first episode and gave up. I may try one more, but wow, it has changed so much.

Reboots like "Will and Grace" are fantastic. This is awful.

 

[mattCR]

Compare this episode with 9:40 in:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/B0747ZVWLJ?tag=decider08-20

 

[Johnny Angell]

Loved it and the audience it favors. The networks are shocked that such a conservative show is so high in ratings. But all anyone really cares about is MONEY so they love it too. Now if they would just bring Tim Allen's Last Man Standing back, which I wouldn't be surprised at now, then I would be even more thrilled.

I didn't find the show only conservative. The lead character is, but Rosanne's sister is liberal. We have a young boy who is not your standard male kid, but the conservative Rosanne is open to allowing him to be different. Dan's worries are largely his concern for the kid's safety.

I don't think my wife and I are in the "constantly struggling to get by" category, yet I enjoyed the original and the rebirth.

I think it's been mentioned, but one thing I noticed is that the actors seemed self-conscious. It was like "we're on stage playing the people for the first time in years." I think that'll get better. We haven't watched the 3rd episode yet.

 

[JohnMor]

I didn't find the show only conservative. The lead character is, but Rosanne's sister is liberal. We have a young boy who is not your standard male kid, but the conservative Rosanne is open to allowing him to be different. Dan's worries are largely his concern for the kid's safety.

I don't think my wife and I are in the "constantly struggling to get by" category, yet I enjoyed the original and the rebirth.

I think it's been mentioned, but one thing I noticed is that the actors seemed self-conscious. It was like "we're on stage playing the people for the first time in years." I think that'll get better. We haven't watched the 3rd episode yet.

I agree. I only watched it after reading a comment from Sara Gilbert and I actually found it pretty even handed, politically. And according to Sara, politics doesn’t play any more of a part in the remainder of the season.

I found the premier very funny (reminded me of the heyday of “All in the Family”) and the other 2 eps quite funny as well, especially the third. I did notice the change in Roseanne and Dan’s characters a bit, but that happens in life as well sometimes as people get older. It obviously seems to have happened to Roseanne Barr in real life.

So far I am enjoying the reboot immensely. Just separating the program from it’s titular star and her off-screen behavior and statements.

 

[Stan]

So far I am enjoying the reboot immensely. Just separating the program from it’s titular star and her off-screen behavior and statements.

That's the hard part, to separate her off-screen behavior, because it still comes through in her performance and the writing.There are many "celebrities" whose shows I no longer watch because of their out-spoken, often un-educated views on life. Being celebrities, they think they can preach and spout their opinions to the rest of us.

 

[Jeffery_H]

Depends upon your own personal views. Yours are no more valid than those on opposite side and are from those equally qualified to make them. I find her and those with courage enough to speak their mind a lot more likable than those that don't.

 

[Greg.K]

Yeah, so likable and courageous.

 

[Robert Crawford]

Depends upon your own personal views. Yours are no more valid than those on opposite side and are from those equally qualified to make them. I find her and those with courage enough to speak their mind a lot more likable than those that don't.

I never thought of Roseanne Barr as being likable even back when she was doing stand up comedy.

 

[Neil Middlemiss]

An uninformed view is less valid than in informed view, regardless of where a person lands on the political spectrum.

 

[EricSchulz]

This week’s episode was a bit closer to the original Roseanne. But some of their “acting” needs to be dialed down several notches! Go back to season one where you acted like a believable family.

 

[Dheiner]

Most of these people have actors have been out of the game since the first run, or are brand new to TV acting so I think we can give them a pass for a few episodes, to allow them to get their sea legs.

 

[Francois Caron]

HAven't seen last week's episode, and I probably won't. After the two episode pilot and the third episode, I'm already bored with the new concept. I'll pass.

 

[Dheiner]

Maybe I'm just getting old and sappy, but I thought the latest episode was brilliant.