Robotech for Xbox worth Buying?

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  1. GeoffL

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    title says it all.

    When I was younger, I used to love Robotech.

    Will this game disappoint? Is it worth $50, or is it just a rental?

    whirley
     
  2. Dave W

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    I love this game... Roughly 40 missions which do get similiar after a while but multiplayer mode as well and Looks ALOT like the old cartoon series. Lots of fun - and only $36 at Circuit City this week. I'd say get it... [​IMG]
     
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    Dave is like, so totally right.[​IMG] A few comments:
    first off the game isn't perfect- the missions on the outset are very episodic and kind of dart around to various points in the story disorientingly. Level design can also be pretty mixed.
    Graphics are nice and refreshingly stylized, especially the explosions, transformations, and rocket trails. Gameplay so far is decent (after completing a dozen missions)- the learning curve is pretty steep what with having to master all 3 transformations, though once you have it's sooo addictive. The game really rewards for quick and brutal action, since a pair of missle salvos can take out an enemy fighter/droid/zentradi and few small errors can cost you a "Guard" mission.
    If the VHS tapes I'd bought from the "Invid Invasion" saga weren't an indication, the mythos definitely holds a place in my heart. I was grinning ear to ear during some of the scenes, despite it seeming that the cutscenes got the shaft where budgets are concerned.
    Plus, after losing one mission, one of the in-game characters mocked me with the line: "Why don't you try flying SOBER?!"
    Hows that for tough love! [​IMG]
    If you still have doubts, rent it. Then buy it.[​IMG]
     
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    I was enjoying the game until the 1st gaurd mission. If you don't get a great price, rent it...play to the gaurd mission. Buy if you get past it.

    Peter
     
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    How about the PS2 port? Does anyone know how it compares to the X-Box version?
     
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    Robotech is a totally sweet game for fans! It's a lot like being in the show and the developers obviously cared about the source material.

    The one catch: the game is insanely hard. It goes from training wheels to full blown meltdown in the first 10 mins. Imagine what Rick Hunter felt like in the first saga, that's what you will feel like in the first ground mission. Once you get over the hump of the first few missions, it gets a little easier though.

    The first time you fight the Zentradi "Ace", you will want to huck your controller across the room. Where the heck is Max Sterling when you need him?

    Bottom line though is if you can handle a steep learning curve and getting your butt whooped, Robotech delivers entertainment in spades.
     
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    I was able to find it for rent today. The only drawbacks are it is insanely hard and the cut scenes are long and drawn out. I lost interest after the first half-hour of play and cleaned my aquarium. [​IMG]
     
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    Definite pick up for a Robotech fan. Has its downfalls but really fun. The cell animation is spectacular too. It is a good choice for animation of Robotech.
     
  9. John Chow

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    I finally beat the PS2 version. Overall, I thought it was a cool game. Once you get the hang of the different transformation modes, you'll start finding yourself transforming back and forth automatically to take the best of each form. There were some extremely painful missions to play through, most of which involved escorting/protecting something or another. The PS2 version also seems to be pretty buggy, in fact, probably the buggiest console game I have ever played. In one situation, I killed what I was supposed to, but it didn't advance the mission so I was pretty much stuck. On another mission, there were only supposed to be a certain amount of enemies, but unlimited Zentradi kept on respawning. In both cases, after dying, reloading the level fixed the problem. I also had one problem where one of your commanders is talking to you, and the little picture of her gets stuck on the screen. I think there was also one time where the music got into a broken record type loop. All of these problems were annoying, but since each only happened once, it wasn't bad enough to screw up gameplay. I'm still trying to get all of the medals, but I've forgotten which missions I need to replay that have enough enemies for some of the medals.
     
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    I got lucky and found the XBOX robotech last week at the rental rack. I beat it over the weekend on Easy. I thought the game was really cool. Although, they really should show the real ending only on normal/hard mode like the old days.
    If you're a fan definitely pick it up. The high point is putting the armor mode on and lauching all your missles at an officer pod. [​IMG]
    tip - push down on the D pad to change to guardian mode with
    trottle off. Took me a long time to figure that out, much easier to pick up stuff when you're not moving.
     
  11. Daren Welsh

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    I managed to get through the two guardian missions, where you escort a radar spacecraft up into orbit, let it do its scans, and then escort it back to the atmosphere. It took me a LOT of tries though ... I've been having trouble with the aces. Granted, I shouldn't expect the game to be a cakewalk, but are there any tricks to beating them? They seem to have 100x better armor and of course their weapons do more damage than mine. I usually have the best results when I find somewhere to hide and pop out every few seconds to shoot some missles and a little machine gun fire. Doing this takes quite a while, but at least it works. I'm just looking for a better method, I guess, because rushing in and trying head-to-head usually gets me blasted pretty quickly.
     
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  13. John Chow

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    Daren, which ace missions are you having problems with, and which veritech do you usually fly? If you're having problems, you may want to switch to a veritech with more armor, but less maneuverability. For the ace mission with the zentradi guy in the power armor (the one you have to beat a whole lot of times for the medal), there is a canal type area you can hide in. Just pop up and shoot at him until he lands. Once he lands, hide because he's going to use sniper mode, which takes off a ton of armor. Wait 'til he's in the air again, then pop back out and shoot him. It makes that guy incredibly easy.

    For the second part of the female ace mission, there's one corner of the map you can go to and hide, and she generally won't follow you. This will let you rebuild all of your missiles and decoys. Keep in mind, your decoys use up missiles, so it may be best not to use up all of your missiles, but instead save them to use as decoys. Keep an eye on the radar, when you see yellow arrows, that means you've been targeted by missiles, so release a decoy.

    I found the escort missions to be the most aggravating. Any time you have to protect something, it's really annoying. The bridge mission is pretty bad too, as are the protect Hiro missions.
     
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    Well, I was talking about aces in general I guess. I've beaten both of the two aces you mentioned ... I think I haven't made it to the "bridge" mission, though. For the guy ace, I hid behind corners of buildings, popping out briefly to fire off some missiles. Then when he landed, I just set up in a spot where I could barely see his side as he paced back and forth behind a building. I'd snipe him whenever he'd poke out, yet he wouldn't hit me because of the angle. Pretty cheap ... but it works. I also found a hiding area in the fight with the chick ace. Like you said, I would engage for a bit and then go hide to wait for my missles to rearm.
    I guess I'm just asking if there's another way to beat them besides hiding like a pansy [​IMG] I feel like I'm exploiting the AI when I hide.
    Also, a question about the decoys. I didn't even find out about these until just yesterday from a mission hint. I didn't see them discussed in the manual. Anyway, are these decoys actual objects that "hang around" or are they like jet fighters' missle countermeasures which only last a few seconds?
     
  15. John Chow

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    They're like jet fighters' missile countermeasures. When you release them, you should notice some yellow type thingy's behind you.

    I think you're supposed to hide behind buildings and such, that's what they're there for. Generally, it seems the aces weapons are much more powerful, there's nothing you can really do against the sniper guns unless you just hide. Their normal weapons really don't do that much damage, it's basically the sniper weapon and missiles you have to worry about, and the missiles can be decoyed.

    Anyone else think it's ridiculous how you(Jack) constitutes a whole squadron by himself? :p) I mean, sheesh, a little help would be nice in some of those missions. It's like they have a total of one Veritech or something. Although on the other hand, any time you do have "help", and I use the term loosely, you end up wasting the time trying to keep them alive.
     
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    The key to going head on with the aces is to fire missles and gun simultaneously and use the missile countermeasures.
    Keey your eye on the radar, if you see some yellow arrows then drop a decoy.

    Try using the fighter mode and go straight at the target, launching missles and shoot her at the same time. She'll be busy shooting down your missles and you'll wear them down.

    For bosses that don't have missles, try the guardian mode.
    Move side way and zigzag up and down a lot and they'll miss most of the time. Keep the gun and missles going constantly too.
     
  17. Daren Welsh

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    Heh ... I find it hard to fire both the gun and the missiles at the same time because I've only got one thumb [​IMG] Sometimes I'll sneak my right index finger over to the top of the controller, but then I can't strafe right. I guess I could try for both buttons with my thumb, but then I feel like I'm going to mash a, b, x, and y.
     
  18. DonRoeber

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    How does the gamecube version compare? Anyone know?

    I'm guessing it'd be inbetween the PS2 and X-Box version, graphics and sound wise. And of course, you can then also use the Wavebird controller. Trying to decide between the Gamecube and the PS2 version for my fiancee's christmas gift.
     

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