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Ian_H

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This sucks! Crappy day to start with and a crappy night to end. Johnny was supposedly shopping around for a book deal to publish a biography. I hope he finished it before he died. Sad sad day!!


-GABBBA GABBBA HEY!


--Ian
 

Brendon

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Yep, this truly sucks. First Joey, then Dee Dee and now John ?!

Johnny may have been the tough, task-master one who basically bullied everyone else into getting the job done, but without him the group would have never made it past 1977.

One hell of a guitarist. The best live band I saw. Ever.

After reading Monte Melnick's book, I hope Johnny came to realise how many people loved his work, how influencial they were and just how important they were and still are to so many people.

The Ramones are still the most important thing musically between the Beatles and now.

RIP Johnny

Brendon
 

Eric Peterson

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Truly depressing. It's hard to believe that only one Ramone is left standing.

I managed to see them twice before they split up and thank God. They were definitely one of the best live bands that I've ever witnessed and they blew Metallica off the stage at Lollapalooza in '96.

R.I.P.
 

Jeff Gatie

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Saw them 13 times through the 80's and 90's, including the last US solo show ever (NYC at the Academy, the one the live album was recorded at). I used to say they were like going to church, same beginning, a little different in the middle and the same ending everytime - but oh what good things they did for the soul.

Rest in peace my rebel/conservative friend, rest in peace.
 

Matt Butler

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Correect me if Im wrong but in a Ramones/RIP/Tribute thread this is a rude comment.

To answer the question though; The Ramones are pioneers in punk rock music. Kinda like Sabbath and Zeppelin to hard rock/metal.

RIP Johnny Ramone
You will be missed :frowning:
 

Brendon

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Trace the lines....No Ramones; no Sex Pistols, no Clash, no Husker Du, a much softer Guns n Roses, seriously different college rock and underground in the 80s. Quite probably no Nirvana, at least not in the form they were. Leave alone the current imitators Green Day and the like. Extrapolate in whichever direction you want - the band were a small pebble, their influence the ripples when the stone got dropped in the musical pond.

Until Punk broke, everything was an increasingly elaborate build on the likes of the Beatles and their ilk had started. The Ramones and punk was the first wiping clean of the musical slate since the 60s.

Feel free to disagree, I don't have a problem with that. I can only say why they were so important to me and others who hold the band in similar regard; me telling you all of this is not going to neccessarily convince you of the case I'm making.

I would ask though that if the Ramones and Johnny's work isn't quite you're thing, you leave us to the tributes at least for a few days; Johnny's death is something of serious concern and sadness to a good number of us.

Cheers,

Brendon
 

Tony-B

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Very sad indeed, because The Ramones are one of my all-time favorite bands. You'll be missed Johnny. :frowning:
 

Jeff Gatie

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Here's an offshoot you may have heard of, a little band called Metallica. They list The Ramones as one of their #1 influences, play Ramones covers in concert and on albums and include in their live show the Motorhead song R.A.M.O.N.E.S. I can say without a doubt that without The Ramones, you have no Metallica.

July 4th, 1976. On stage at the Hammersmith in London, The Ramones headline. In the audience are future members of The Clash, The Sex Pistols, Siouxsie and The Banshees, The Jam and various other punk bands. All go on to revolutionize music in the late 70's. Without punk, you have no Hardcore, no New Wave, no Speed Metal, no Grunge, no Beastie Boys, no Nirvana, no 90's retro punk, and yes, no Metallica.

Rolling Stone once called Johnny Ramone the third most influential rhythm guitarist of all time, behind only Keith Richards and some guy named Lennon.
 

John Alvarez

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I do apologize if it was rude. It does in fact bother me that he has passed. In fact when I was in N.Y. last year I made it a point to go by where they used to play.

Again my apologies to you guy's and my sympathies to his family.
 

Brendon

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John,

No need to apologise, we're all cool here :)

Does anyone know of anyone related to the band or other musicians that have said anything in light of Johnny ? Aside from Arturo (Vega), I've not read anything. Despite the issues within the band, it would be good to hear from Tommy, Marky and CJ.

Brendon
 

TedT

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I know Eddie from the Supersuckers said onstage last night that while he was a big fan of the Ramones that it "was one less vote for Bush".

I think I'll pass on seeing the Supersuckers this Monday. That left a bad taste in my mouth. This is coming from the same guy that played "How To Maximize Your Kill Count" in CO the night of the Columbine massacre (he later said he regretted it).

"God Bless President Bush and God Bless the Ramones." -- Johnny Ramone at the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame induction speech.
 

Tony-B

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I love that quote because it shows that he is a true punk rocker. He's saying and doing what he wants and not giving a crap about what anyone else says.
 

Ian_H

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To give everyone an uplift, I have posted some funny lyric sheet from the old WB Japanese CD of Animal Boy:

RED = CORRECT LYRICS
BLUE = JAPANESE LYRIC SHEET

Love Kills


Sid was a punk rock king Nancy was a groupie queen
Saint boys are back again Nut Ted was a broken crate
Their lives were so glamorous Sid and Nancy were a mess
There were lies -- so glamorous Ted said why we were mess
When you're hooked on heroin don't you know you'll never win
When you are hooked in heroin don't you know you'll never win
Drugs don't ever pay you really did it your way
Drugs don't advocate

LOVE KILLS X3 (This one they actually match)

We still believe in anarchy it makes me so damn angry
-- , I don't care it makes me so good anyway
Sid and Nancy meant a lot to me you may be dead but your souls are free
Set an announcement, a lot to make You make --
Like Romeo and Juliet you two made a pact with Death
Like Romeo and Juliet you two made of pack --
Like a needle that ya use Sid and Nancy were born to lose
-- Set an announcement we were born to live

LOVE KILLS X3 (This one they actually match)

Sid never meant any harm he shot some dope into his arm
Says they were met anyhow they shot some dopings to his arm
All he wanted was some fun now she's lying in a pool of blood
All I have wanted was a fun now she's lying in a paul's bed
Always loaded, always high why did you have to die?
Always thought that I was hot why did you have to die
I'll say one thing is, it leaves me with a bitter taste
I say --

These sheets are hysterical. If they couldn't figure out a line at all they just left blank spaces and dashes.

Here are some more exceprts:

Bonzo Goes To Bitburg (My Brain is Hanging Upside Down)

Bonzo goes to bitburg then goes out for a cup of tea
-- that goes down for a cup of tea
As I watched it on TV somehow it really bothered me
As I watched it on the tv and how really thought the name
Drank in all the bars in town to understand your foreign policy
Bringing all the horses and stand it for a ### ## bottle of sin


To give them credit they did have the Animal Boy lyrics correct. I believe this was the one album that didn't have the lyrics printed on the inner sleeve except for Animal Boy and they wanted to have the complete lyrics. I always imagine some Japanese person with headphones trying to decipher the lyrics.


--Ian

R.I.P. Joey / Dee Dee / Johnny
 

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