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Richard Jewell (2019)

Discussion in 'Movies' started by ScottJH, Oct 3, 2019.

  1. TravisR

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    But those people aren't going to remember the movie beat for beat. At best, they'll remember the broad strokes of the story and not a detail that a screenwriter dreamed up. In the case of this movie, this reporter sex story has garnered far more attention than anything I've seen about the movie so the audience is way more aware that that is fake than, say, when Bohemian Rhapsody depicted Queen reuniting for Live Aid.
     
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    For sure, it's not a new problem. But I would argue that a movie built around the importance of the truth, the human cost of jumping to conclusions, and the dangers of a compelling but unsubstantiated narrative has a special responsibility in this area that, say, Rocketman does not.
     
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    TBH, I never thought Eastwood would be this great of a director and it would happen during his senior years.
     
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    There are a number of other movies that do have "a compelling but unsubstantiated narrative", and do not adhere to the importance of truth, yet many admire them for the aforementioned reasons.
     
  5. Adam Lenhardt

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    Once again, though, those movies aren't "built around the importance of the truth, the human cost of jumping to conclusions, and the dangers of a compelling but unsubstantiated narrative".
     
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    Those movies claim to BE the truth, while simultaneously ignoring it.
     
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    Once again, no Thursday night showings for an Eastwood film. It doesn't affect me because I can't go tonight anyway, but I'd love to know the reasoning behind this (and the same for The Mule). Maybe it's because Clint is old-school and thinks all movies should open on Friday?
     
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    That is interesting, though I just went ahead and saw the next level of Jumanji instead last night. May see this tonight, looking at the reserved seating, only 4 tickets reserved so far for the 7pm showing.
     
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    Well, as you said, since this happened in the Atlanta area most people there are probably sick of it.

    I felt the same about Escape From Dannemora. The non-stop press coverage in my area canceled any interest I had in ever seeing a film about it.
     
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    Evidently, only $5 million in tickets were sold on opening weakend. Damn...
     
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    The movie needed a villain or two, so they went with the FBI and the press, both were drawn so broadly and over the top. In the movie, Jewell is his own worst enemy, never taking good advice to heart. But people are like that.
     
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    OMG, Rowdy Yates is 89? Just put me in the box and shovel the dirt on me.

    Is the paper trying to do that? I’ve not read that. If they are trying to clarify what they did, is that wrong to do?

    I’ve never lived in Atlanta, visits were long ago and brief. I was very interested in this movie till I started reading that it may egregiously inaccurate.

    Yes, today’s audience is aware to some extent. But how about 10 or 20 or 30 years from now and someone watches the movie and takes it for gospel?
     
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    My comment wasn't about the future (though it still applies there), I was talking about audiences of today. When people watch a movie, they remember the broad strokes of the movie and not the specifics. All but the dumbest members of the audience know that a movie based on a true story isn't a documentary.
     
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    My point is that 10 years from now many of those that watch the movie will take for gospel that the reporter slept her way to a story. I believe there are many more people who don’t question the premise of a movie than you think.
     
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    Saw RJ today and enjoyed it. Another good Eastwood film. He's made a lot of them.
     
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    Ya think?;)
     
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    I'm not sure the movie is actually saying she slept her way to the story. IIRC, Jon Hamm tells Wilde that the FBI is investigating RJ before they go off to have sex. You would think in that kind of quid pro quo, the sex would come first.

    Plus, we don't actually see them go off and have sex so we don't know, from the movie, if they did or not. In real life, lots of times people say "let's go have sex" and then it doesn't actually happen
     
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    I saw this today and liked it a lot. Some terrific performances.

    The opening was slow (but necessary), but once it reached the Park scenes it was good, very good.

    However it should probably win an Oscar for the greatest achievement for a 2019 film - getting a large group of millennials to learn and perform The Macarena
     
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    Yes, I know this from experience. :P
     
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